Hi all,

I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
But i have a problem

On the SRM prompt :

>>>boot dka0

return :

"device dka is invalid"

>>>show device

return a dka400 device but

>>>boot dka400

return :

(boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0

May i have a CD drives problem ...

How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?

Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...

Do you still have the default Toshiba CD-ROM in this machine? I have
noticed from time to time if you put CD drives in that weren't "DEC
approved" that I have ran into weird issues.

Also, it pretty much has to be a SCSI CD-ROM, at least that is what I
found with installing VMS... maybe True64 is the same way about loading
SCSI drivers instead of IDE.

"ad" wrote in news:41937f73$0$25773
$636a15ce@news.free.fr:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install
tru64...
> But i have a problem
>
> On the SRM prompt :
>
>>>>boot dka0
>
> return :
>
> "device dka is invalid"
>
>>>>show device
>
> return a dka400 device but
>
>>>>boot dka400
>
> return :
>
> (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
>
> May i have a CD drives problem ...
>
> How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
>
> Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...
>
>
>

ad wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
> But i have a problem
>
> On the SRM prompt :
>
>
>>>>boot dka0
>
>
> return :
>
> "device dka is invalid"
>
>
>>>>show device
>
>
> return a dka400 device but
>
>
>>>>boot dka400
>
>
> return :
>
> (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
>
> May i have a CD drives problem ...
>
> How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
>
> Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...
>
>

at first glance it looks like either bad CDROM/termination problem or a
non-bootable CD.

and the boot flags are incorrect for OSF, looks like you had Linux on it
at one time. set the boot_osflags to "a".


--

Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
Network Consultant

BOFH excuse #83: The cause of the problem is: Someone is standing on the
ethernet cable, causing a kink in the cable

I agree to "must be s DEC approved..". CD-Drive should be identified as
an RRD42 or 43, otherwise it won´t boot. I tried with other SCSI CD-Rom
drives without success.
I always used "set boot_osflags s" from the console to start
installation from CD, as this will run in a single user environment.

Hope this helps
Rainer


ad schrieb:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
> But i have a problem
>
> On the SRM prompt :
>
> >>>boot dka0
>
> return :
>
> "device dka is invalid"
>
> >>>show device
>
> return a dka400 device but
>
> >>>boot dka400
>
> return :
>
> (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
>
> May i have a CD drives problem ...
>
> How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
>
> Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...

I don't know if the cdrom drive is the default cdrom in this machine ... i
don't have any documentation ...
when i write show device :
dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436
.....
and i don't know too if this CD drive is SCSI or IDE ...
ad

"Schroeder, AJ" a écrit dans le message de news:
Xns959F5183F46C2aaronschroederqgcom@206.158.124.2. ..
> Do you still have the default Toshiba CD-ROM in this machine? I have
> noticed from time to time if you put CD drives in that weren't "DEC
> approved" that I have ran into weird issues.
>
> Also, it pretty much has to be a SCSI CD-ROM, at least that is what I
> found with installing VMS... maybe True64 is the same way about loading
> SCSI drivers instead of IDE.
>
> "ad" wrote in news:41937f73$0$25773
> $636a15ce@news.free.fr:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install
> tru64...
> > But i have a problem
> >
> > On the SRM prompt :
> >
> >>>>boot dka0
> >
> > return :
> >
> > "device dka is invalid"
> >
> >>>>show device
> >
> > return a dka400 device but
> >
> >>>>boot dka400
> >
> > return :
> >
> > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> >
> > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> >
> > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> >
> > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...
> >
> >
> >
>

i don't have linux
but i supose my CD is bootable because i burn it from an *.iso
but i don't know ...
how verify if it is bootable on a PC Windows ?
i have try too to install windows net from ARC firmaware with a original NT
CD but it can't install too
can i see if my CDROM Drive is out of service ?
thx
ad



"Marco Benton - BOFH" a écrit dans le message de news:
he0f62-9a8.ln1@xsssvr.xssnet.com...
> ad wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
> > But i have a problem
> >
> > On the SRM prompt :
> >
> >
> >>>>boot dka0
> >
> >
> > return :
> >
> > "device dka is invalid"
> >
> >
> >>>>show device
> >
> >
> > return a dka400 device but
> >
> >
> >>>>boot dka400
> >
> >
> > return :
> >
> > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> >
> > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> >
> > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> >
> > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...
> >
> >
>
> at first glance it looks like either bad CDROM/termination problem or a
> non-bootable CD.
>
> and the boot flags are incorrect for OSF, looks like you had Linux on it
> at one time. set the boot_osflags to "a".
>
>
> --
>
> Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
> Network Consultant
>
> BOFH excuse #83: The cause of the problem is: Someone is standing on the
> ethernet cable, causing a kink in the cable

My CD drive is identified in show device like this :

dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436

it is wrong ??

i have try the "set boot_osflags s" and "boot DKA400" command but it doesn't
install ...

thx fot u help

ad


"rainer lörwald" a écrit dans le message de news:
41968F2F.DAC10C13@gmx.de...
> I agree to "must be s DEC approved..". CD-Drive should be identified as
> an RRD42 or 43, otherwise it won´t boot. I tried with other SCSI CD-Rom
> drives without success.
> I always used "set boot_osflags s" from the console to start
> installation from CD, as this will run in a single user environment.
>
> Hope this helps
> Rainer
>
>
> ad schrieb:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
> > But i have a problem
> >
> > On the SRM prompt :
> >
> > >>>boot dka0
> >
> > return :
> >
> > "device dka is invalid"
> >
> > >>>show device
> >
> > return a dka400 device but
> >
> > >>>boot dka400
> >
> > return :
> >
> > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> >
> > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> >
> > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> >
> > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...

"ad" wrote in message
news:419746f7$0$4315$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> I don't know if the cdrom drive is the default cdrom in this machine ... i
> don't have any documentation ...
> when i write show device :
> dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436
> ....
> and i don't know too if this CD drive is SCSI or IDE ...
> ad

It is SCSI.

Capacity 682 MByte
Supported Formats Red-Book, Yellow-Book, CD-ROM XA, Photo-CD, CD-Bridge,
CD-I, MPC, MPC2
Transfer Rate Mode 1: (default mode jumper installed)
150 Kbytes/sec 1X
300 Kbytes/sec 2X
600 Kbytes/sec 4X


Mode 2: (no Jumper)
When the Mode jumper is not installed the drive acts identically to the
vendors standard product. The default block size is 512 bytes and the
unit-offline bit in the send-diagnostic command is ignored.

Burst Rate 1.5 Mbytes/sec asynch
4.2 Mbytes/sec synch
Cache Size 256 Kbytes
Average Access 600 msec 4X 190 msec
Rotational Speed Innermost Track:
530 rpm 1X
1060 rpm 2X
2120 rpm 4X Outermost Track:
200 rpm 1X
400 rpm 2X
800 rpm 4X

Alex

Thx u for specifications !!!!!!!!!
but do you know wath i can't boot on it ?


"Alex Daniels" a écrit dans le message de
news: 41976481$0$27534$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> "ad" wrote in message
> news:419746f7$0$4315$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> > I don't know if the cdrom drive is the default cdrom in this machine ...
i
> > don't have any documentation ...
> > when i write show device :
> > dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436
> > ....
> > and i don't know too if this CD drive is SCSI or IDE ...
> > ad
>
> It is SCSI.
>
> Capacity 682 MByte
> Supported Formats Red-Book, Yellow-Book, CD-ROM XA, Photo-CD, CD-Bridge,
> CD-I, MPC, MPC2
> Transfer Rate Mode 1: (default mode jumper installed)
> 150 Kbytes/sec 1X
> 300 Kbytes/sec 2X
> 600 Kbytes/sec 4X
>
>
> Mode 2: (no Jumper)
> When the Mode jumper is not installed the drive acts identically to the
> vendors standard product. The default block size is 512 bytes and the
> unit-offline bit in the send-diagnostic command is ignored.
>
> Burst Rate 1.5 Mbytes/sec asynch
> 4.2 Mbytes/sec synch
> Cache Size 256 Kbytes
> Average Access 600 msec 4X 190 msec
> Rotational Speed Innermost Track:
> 530 rpm 1X
> 1060 rpm 2X
> 2120 rpm 4X Outermost Track:
> 200 rpm 1X
> 400 rpm 2X
> 800 rpm 4X
>
> Alex
>
>

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:17:57 +0100, ad wrote:

> Thx u for specifications !!!!!!!!!
> but do you know wath i can't boot on it ?
Please don't top post.
An RRD45 should be fine for booting and installing Tru64. You mention that
you burned the disk from an ISO image, what is the source of your ISO? As
far as I'm aware, DEC/Compaq/HP never made Tru64 available as an ISO image.
Perhaps you should go back to the original media and try that? I have had
problems with copies of Tru64 CD's in the past, especially if I used
Windows/PC based copy programs.

Adam

I have downloaded an iso image of tru64 on emule because i have buyed this
server without OS or Original media ...
and it's right i have burned this CD with a Wintel computer
....
But the problem is my windows NT CD (with ARC firmware of course) doesn't
ran installation ...

Can i try to browse the CD of tru64 for know if it's a CDROM Drive problem
or Media problem ?

Thx you adam

ad

"Adam Price" a écrit dans le message de news:
7jc1v9egshs2$.dlg@pappnase.co.uk...
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:17:57 +0100, ad wrote:
>
> > Thx u for specifications !!!!!!!!!
> > but do you know wath i can't boot on it ?
> Please don't top post.
> An RRD45 should be fine for booting and installing Tru64. You mention that
> you burned the disk from an ISO image, what is the source of your ISO? As
> far as I'm aware, DEC/Compaq/HP never made Tru64 available as an ISO
image.
> Perhaps you should go back to the original media and try that? I have had
> problems with copies of Tru64 CD's in the past, especially if I used
> Windows/PC based copy programs.
>
> Adam

ad wrote:
> I have downloaded an iso image of tru64 on emule because i have buyed this
> server without OS or Original media ...
> and it's right i have burned this CD with a Wintel computer
> ...
> But the problem is my windows NT CD (with ARC firmware of course) doesn't
> ran installation ...
>
> Can i try to browse the CD of tru64 for know if it's a CDROM Drive problem
> or Media problem ?
>

well, if you have an "Official" M$ NT 4.0 CD (which still had ALpha/NT)
and it didnt run installation, then your CD drive is hosed. find a SCSI
Toshiba CDROM drive hanging around and install it.

--

Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
Network Consultant

BOFH excuse #90: The cause of the problem is: Mouse chewed through power
cable

do you have a pc with scsi card? this way you can try if the drive is
o.k.
try to get original media or 1:1 copies to be sure they are o.k.
Rainer


ad schrieb:
>
> My CD drive is identified in show device like this :
>
> dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436
>
> it is wrong ??
>
> i have try the "set boot_osflags s" and "boot DKA400" command but it doesn't
> install ...
>
> thx fot u help
>
> ad
>
> "rainer lörwald" a écrit dans le message de news:
> 41968F2F.DAC10C13@gmx.de...
> > I agree to "must be s DEC approved..". CD-Drive should be identified as
> > an RRD42 or 43, otherwise it won´t boot. I tried with other SCSI CD-Rom
> > drives without success.
> > I always used "set boot_osflags s" from the console to start
> > installation from CD, as this will run in a single user environment.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> > ad schrieb:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install tru64...
> > > But i have a problem
> > >
> > > On the SRM prompt :
> > >
> > > >>>boot dka0
> > >
> > > return :
> > >
> > > "device dka is invalid"
> > >
> > > >>>show device
> > >
> > > return a dka400 device but
> > >
> > > >>>boot dka400
> > >
> > > return :
> > >
> > > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> > >
> > > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> > >
> > > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> > >
> > > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...

thx you,
i try to buy a Toshiba CDROM Drive SCSI on ebay ... all the model are good ?
ad

"Marco Benton - BOFH" a écrit dans le message de news:
9lik62-tg8.ln1@xsssvr.xssnet.com...
> ad wrote:
> > I have downloaded an iso image of tru64 on emule because i have buyed
this
> > server without OS or Original media ...
> > and it's right i have burned this CD with a Wintel computer
> > ...
> > But the problem is my windows NT CD (with ARC firmware of course)
doesn't
> > ran installation ...
> >
> > Can i try to browse the CD of tru64 for know if it's a CDROM Drive
problem
> > or Media problem ?
> >
>
> well, if you have an "Official" M$ NT 4.0 CD (which still had ALpha/NT)
> and it didnt run installation, then your CD drive is hosed. find a SCSI
> Toshiba CDROM drive hanging around and install it.
>
> --
>
> Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
> Network Consultant
>
> BOFH excuse #90: The cause of the problem is: Mouse chewed through power
> cable

no i don't have scisi card but i try to buy one on ebay i can't have
originla media, wath is 1:1 copy ? it's a direct copy from the original
media ?

so there doesn't exist command to browse the CD ?

thx for your help rainer

ad


"rainer lörwald" a écrit dans le message de news:
4197AC95.F7E33EE@gmx.de...
> do you have a pc with scsi card? this way you can try if the drive is
> o.k.
> try to get original media or 1:1 copies to be sure they are o.k.
> Rainer
>
>
> ad schrieb:
> >
> > My CD drive is identified in show device like this :
> >
> > dka400.4.0.2000.0 DKA400 RRD45 0436
> >
> > it is wrong ??
> >
> > i have try the "set boot_osflags s" and "boot DKA400" command but it
doesn't
> > install ...
> >
> > thx fot u help
> >
> > ad
> >
> > "rainer lörwald" a écrit dans le message de
news:
> > 41968F2F.DAC10C13@gmx.de...
> > > I agree to "must be s DEC approved..". CD-Drive should be identified
as
> > > an RRD42 or 43, otherwise it won´t boot. I tried with other SCSI
CD-Rom
> > > drives without success.
> > > I always used "set boot_osflags s" from the console to start
> > > installation from CD, as this will run in a single user environment.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > > Rainer
> > >
> > >
> > > ad schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install
tru64...
> > > > But i have a problem
> > > >
> > > > On the SRM prompt :
> > > >
> > > > >>>boot dka0
> > > >
> > > > return :
> > > >
> > > > "device dka is invalid"
> > > >
> > > > >>>show device
> > > >
> > > > return a dka400 device but
> > > >
> > > > >>>boot dka400
> > > >
> > > > return :
> > > >
> > > > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > > > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> > > >
> > > > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> > > >
> > > > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> > > >
> > > > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...

ad wrote:
> thx you,
> i try to buy a Toshiba CDROM Drive SCSI on ebay ... all the model are good ?
> ad
>

i mentioned that if you had a Toshiba hanging around... Most RRD4x are
OEM'd Toshiba's from what i remember. but if you're going to ebay,
might as well get an official DEC RRD46.

--

Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
Network Consultant

BOFH excuse #368: The cause of the problem is: Virus transmitted from
computer to sysadmins.

well ... it's expansive "an official DEC RRD46" ? because i'm an IT student

and where i can buy it ? on the an official DEC website ?

"Marco Benton - BOFH" a écrit dans le message de news:
63qk62-ae9.ln1@xsssvr.xssnet.com...
> ad wrote:
> > thx you,
> > i try to buy a Toshiba CDROM Drive SCSI on ebay ... all the model are
good ?
> > ad
> >
>
> i mentioned that if you had a Toshiba hanging around... Most RRD4x are
> OEM'd Toshiba's from what i remember. but if you're going to ebay,
> might as well get an official DEC RRD46.
>
> --
>
> Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
> Network Consultant
>
> BOFH excuse #368: The cause of the problem is: Virus transmitted from
> computer to sysadmins.

ad wrote:
> well ... it's expansive "an official DEC RRD46" ? because i'm an IT student
>
> and where i can buy it ? on the an official DEC website ?
>

in that case, go for the Toshiba. i remember i had a generic SCSI CD in
my LX164 and it worked just fine. i think it's the real old DEC model
Alpha's that didnt like any drive unless it had a "DEC" SCSI ID.


--

Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
Network Consultant

BOFH excuse #286: The cause of the problem is: Telecommunications is
downshifting.

If i write ">>>ecu", the arc firmware is loaded and initialize devices and
return this message :
"Error : Device error, press any key to continue"...
but it is not indicated the device where there is error ...
but if i run arc with ">>>arc" it will loaded without error ...

ad...

ps: for install tru64 i may boot on SRM or ARC firmware ?? it's SRM no ?


"Richard Tomkins" a écrit dans le message de news:
41984023$1_5@127.0.0.1...
> Run the ECU to set up all the hardware on the system for Tru64 UNIX.
>
> Contrary to what others will tell you, there is no substitute for not
doing
> this. It must be done to ensure that the system architecture has been set
> properly.
>
> rtt
>
>
> "rainer lörwald" wrote in message
> news:41968F2F.DAC10C13@gmx.de...
> > I agree to "must be s DEC approved..". CD-Drive should be identified as
> > an RRD42 or 43, otherwise it won´t boot. I tried with other SCSI CD-Rom
> > drives without success.
> > I always used "set boot_osflags s" from the console to start
> > installation from CD, as this will run in a single user environment.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Rainer
> >
> >
> > ad schrieb:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm the owner of a alphaserver 1000A 4/266 and I try to install
tru64...
> > > But i have a problem
> > >
> > > On the SRM prompt :
> > >
> > > >>>boot dka0
> > >
> > > return :
> > >
> > > "device dka is invalid"
> > >
> > > >>>show device
> > >
> > > return a dka400 device but
> > >
> > > >>>boot dka400
> > >
> > > return :
> > >
> > > (boot dka400.4.0.2000.0 -flags 0)
> > > failed to open dka400.4.0.2000.0
> > >
> > > May i have a CD drives problem ...
> > >
> > > How can i see if my CD drive is ready or if it is dead ?
> > >
> > > Thx u and sorry for my bad frenchy language ...
> >
>
>
>
>
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i will buy and test with an other SCSI CD drive ...
thx you Marco
ad

"Marco Benton - BOFH" a écrit dans le message de news:
8r4l62-37b.ln1@xsssvr.xssnet.com...
> ad wrote:
> > well ... it's expansive "an official DEC RRD46" ? because i'm an IT
student
> >
> > and where i can buy it ? on the an official DEC website ?
> >
>
> in that case, go for the Toshiba. i remember i had a generic SCSI CD in
> my LX164 and it worked just fine. i think it's the real old DEC model
> Alpha's that didnt like any drive unless it had a "DEC" SCSI ID.
>
>
> --
>
> Marco Benton - BOFH, BSMFH
> Network Consultant
>
> BOFH excuse #286: The cause of the problem is: Telecommunications is
> downshifting.