For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons. - DEC

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  1. For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    I have reluctantly decided to part with my beautiful
    machines as described below:


    2 x DEC 4000-720 (each with 2 Alpha 21064 processors),
    each with 256 Mbytes, in a rack-mount cabinet. Each
    machine has 4 x DSSI buses, + one DSSI/SCSI (configurable
    as either DSSI or SCSI) bus. Futurebus+, 2 x 10 Mbit
    Ethernet adaptors each, 1 TLZ04 DAT (I think) each,
    1 CD drive (can't remember which model) each. The systems
    have been switched off for a couple of years, though I'm
    pretty confident that they'll be in working order (this is
    after all *DEC* equipment, not Compaq or HP ;-)

    If necessary, 2 BA350 shelves fully stocked with RZ29's plus
    2 HSD30 controllers. VMS 7.3-2 pre-installed if desired,
    plus the complete and latest set of Layered Products CD's.

    Suitable for a *very* enthusiastic serious hobbyist only :-)

    Location is Coventry (UK). Purchaser to collect (you'd need
    a fair sized van).

    Reasonable offers ...

    Roy Omond
    Blue Bubble Ltd.



  2. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    Roy Omond wrote:
    > I have reluctantly decided to part with my beautiful
    > machines as described below:
    >
    >
    > 2 x DEC 4000-720 (each with 2 Alpha 21064 processors),
    > each with 256 Mbytes, in a rack-mount cabinet. Each
    > machine has 4 x DSSI buses, + one DSSI/SCSI (configurable
    > as either DSSI or SCSI) bus. Futurebus+, 2 x 10 Mbit
    > Ethernet adaptors each, 1 TLZ04 DAT (I think) each,
    > 1 CD drive (can't remember which model) each. The systems
    > have been switched off for a couple of years, though I'm
    > pretty confident that they'll be in working order (this is
    > after all *DEC* equipment, not Compaq or HP ;-)
    >
    > If necessary, 2 BA350 shelves fully stocked with RZ29's plus
    > 2 HSD30 controllers. VMS 7.3-2 pre-installed if desired,
    > plus the complete and latest set of Layered Products CD's.
    >
    > Suitable for a *very* enthusiastic serious hobbyist only :-)
    >
    > Location is Coventry (UK). Purchaser to collect (you'd need
    > a fair sized van).
    >
    > Reasonable offers ...




    Does this mean that HP's count of VMS systems in operation drops to
    411,000 - 2 = 410,998 ?? ;-)

    I wonder how long HP is going to use that same system count? Perhaps as long
    as the Soviet Union claimed that 99.99% of voters actually voted for Joe
    Stalin.



  3. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    John Smith wrote:

    > Roy Omond wrote:
    >
    >>I have reluctantly decided to part with my beautiful
    >>machines as described below:
    >>
    >>
    >> [... snip ...]
    >>
    >>Reasonable offers ...

    >
    > Does this mean that HP's count of VMS systems in operation drops to
    > 411,000 - 2 = 410,998 ?? ;-)


    Well, I guess so !

    Actually make that minus another 2. Yesterday, at one of my
    customers, I had the dubious honour of switching off two
    VAX 7660's for their last and final time.

    Brought a tear to the eye ;-|

    Good news is, though, they're being replaced by a very healthily
    configured new ES45 (of course running VMS).

    Anyone interested in purchasing two 6-processor VAX 7660's,
    each with 1 Gbyte memory ? The VMS licence would be transferable.


    Roy Omond
    Blue Bubble Ltd.

  4. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    John Smith wrote:
    > Does this mean that HP's count of VMS systems in operation drops to
    > 411,000 - 2 = 410,998 ?? ;-)


    Not necessarily. These may find a good home yet.

    And every time a hobbyist installs simh or TS-10 on a PC or a customer
    buys Charon-VAX, and they install and run VMS, the count should go up,
    right? (I just did this with simh on my Windows laptop, so add 1 more.)

    > I wonder how long HP is going to use that same system count? Perhaps as long
    > as the Soviet Union claimed that 99.99% of voters actually voted for Joe
    > Stalin.


    That reminds me. I don't think the 411K number included any of the
    clones made in the USSR, Hungary, etc. (I had the opportunity to speak
    to the DECUS Local User Group in Budapest last summer, and while I was
    there I had the privilege of sharing dinner with a gentleman who had
    helped build one of those clones while he was at the university. Now
    THAT'S a real Computer Science education!

  5. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    Keith Parris wrote:
    > John Smith wrote:
    >
    >> Does this mean that HP's count of VMS systems in operation drops to
    >> 411,000 - 2 = 410,998 ?? ;-)

    >
    >
    > Not necessarily. These may find a good home yet.
    >
    > And every time a hobbyist installs simh or TS-10 on a PC or a customer
    > buys Charon-VAX, and they install and run VMS, the count should go up,
    > right? (I just did this with simh on my Windows laptop, so add 1 more.)
    >
    >> I wonder how long HP is going to use that same system count? Perhaps
    >> as long
    >> as the Soviet Union claimed that 99.99% of voters actually voted for Joe
    >> Stalin.

    >
    >
    > That reminds me. I don't think the 411K number included any of the
    > clones made in the USSR, Hungary, etc. (I had the opportunity to speak
    > to the DECUS Local User Group in Budapest last summer, and while I was
    > there I had the privilege of sharing dinner with a gentleman who had
    > helped build one of those clones while he was at the university. Now
    > THAT'S a real Computer Science education!


    For those interested in learning more about VAX clones behind the former
    iron-curtain...

    The TPA story
    http://web.archive.org/web/200306230...a/e_index.html

    Soviet clones of DEC machines
    ftp://ftp.digital.dp.ua/DEC/pictures/

    Molecular Expressions: The Silicon Zoo - Steal The Best
    http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creature.../russians.html

    The many OpenVMS-trained specialists which resulted from using the VAX
    clones appears to have left a legacy (in the positive sense) which can
    still be seen today in Hungary...

    VMS Competence Center
    http://vms.elte.hu/


    Cheers!

    Keith Cayemberg





  6. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    "John Smith" wrote in message news:...
    > Roy Omond wrote:
    > > I have reluctantly decided to part with my beautiful
    > > machines as described below:
    > >
    > >
    > > 2 x DEC 4000-720 (each with 2 Alpha 21064 processors),
    > > each with 256 Mbytes, in a rack-mount cabinet. Each
    > > machine has 4 x DSSI buses, + one DSSI/SCSI (configurable
    > > as either DSSI or SCSI) bus. Futurebus+, 2 x 10 Mbit
    > > Ethernet adaptors each, 1 TLZ04 DAT (I think) each,
    > > 1 CD drive (can't remember which model) each. The systems
    > > have been switched off for a couple of years, though I'm
    > > pretty confident that they'll be in working order (this is
    > > after all *DEC* equipment, not Compaq or HP ;-)
    > >
    > > If necessary, 2 BA350 shelves fully stocked with RZ29's plus
    > > 2 HSD30 controllers. VMS 7.3-2 pre-installed if desired,
    > > plus the complete and latest set of Layered Products CD's.
    > >
    > > Suitable for a *very* enthusiastic serious hobbyist only :-)
    > >
    > > Location is Coventry (UK). Purchaser to collect (you'd need
    > > a fair sized van).
    > >
    > > Reasonable offers ...

    >
    >
    >
    > Does this mean that HP's count of VMS systems in operation drops to
    > 411,000 - 2 = 410,998 ?? ;-)
    >
    > I wonder how long HP is going to use that same system count? Perhaps as long
    > as the Soviet Union claimed that 99.99% of voters actually voted for Joe
    > Stalin.


    Better for HP donīt use the numbers. Instead they can use the word "thousands".
    By the way in a few months (<3-4) the company will turn off some systems under
    OpenVMS (4 x ES-40 + 4 x AS-4100 as query servers (Oracle RDB HotStandby servers)).

    Please dont ask me how can you buy these systems, because itīs a state owned
    company and they prefer to donate the servers to other public institution.

    Regards

    FC

  7. Re: For Sale: 2 x DEC 4000-720 (rack-mounted) plus add-ons.

    Roy Omond wrote:
    > I have reluctantly decided to part with my beautiful
    > machines as described below:
    >
    >
    > 2 x DEC 4000-720 (each with 2 Alpha 21064 processors),
    > each with 256 Mbytes, in a rack-mount cabinet. Each
    > machine has 4 x DSSI buses, + one DSSI/SCSI (configurable
    > as either DSSI or SCSI) bus. Futurebus+, 2 x 10 Mbit
    > Ethernet adaptors each, 1 TLZ04 DAT (I think) each,
    > 1 CD drive (can't remember which model) each. The systems
    > have been switched off for a couple of years, though I'm
    > pretty confident that they'll be in working order (this is
    > after all *DEC* equipment, not Compaq or HP ;-)


    These beautiful machines have now been adopted by a kindly
    soul in the UK. Despite being dismantled (an angle grinder
    was also used), the new owner (hi G. !) will, I'm sure,
    offer them tender loving care in their new surroundings.

    Roy Omond
    Blue Bubble Ltd.

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