On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Raphael Geissert
>
> wrote:
> > * When browsing the packages list it would be great if you could also
> > provide links to browse packages by name (e.g. A, B, C, etc, you get
> > what I mean). * Have you considered storing more information together
> > with the images? (the version of the package is what I believe is the
> > most relevant missing information).
>
> Version info would be useful for providing a list of packages with
> outdated screenshots in any given dist (sid/etch). Also, I think
> multiple screenshots per package are needed so that the
> packages.d.o/sid/foo and packages.d.o/etch/foo pages can point to the
> right screenshots.
>
> s.d.n/outdated/sid/a
> s.d.n/outdated/etch/b
>
> Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
>
> s.d.n/needed/sid/a
> s.d.n/needed/etch/b

That would work for Etch - but not for Sid because it's a moving target. So
far I would just stick to the version number (not yet implemented).

Christoph

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On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
> >
> > s.d.n/needed/sid/a
> > s.d.n/needed/etch/b
>
> In a similar vein, it might be a good idea to have per-maintainer
> lists of packages with outdated screenshots or no screenshots, similar
> to the debtags todo pages:
>
> http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/tod...abs@debian.org

Good idea. So that maintainers can check whether screenshots of their own
packages are still up to date or lacking images. Put on the todo list.

Christoph

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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> Have fun and let me know what you think.

Another minor one: when browsing through the result of a package
search, please repeat somewhere the search string, a-la-google "result
for search foo bar baz". It just happened to me that I went back to an
old search result page and it took me a while to understand what I was
browsing through

Thanks!
Cheers.

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On Tue Nov 11, 2008 at 01:02:42 +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:

> > * There are 14 pages and the navigation is truncated to 'Page: 1 2 3 ..
> > 14 >'. Could you (optionally) display links to all pages? Or alter
> > the number of results per page (increase, or make user configurable)?
>
> I'll change the pager radius to 10. Will be fixed in the next deployment.

I'd love a "random" link in there somewhere too..


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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seeing one (maybe the
> "most popular") screenshot directly from the result page?

Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.

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2008/11/11 Noah Slater :
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
>> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seeing one (maybe the
>> "most popular") screenshot directly from the result page?
>
> Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.

I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.

Greetings,
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I demand that Miriam Ruiz may or may not have written...

> 2008/11/11 Noah Slater :
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>>> I believe the answer is that in the future there will be more
>>> screenshot, but what about giving the ability of seeing one (maybe the
>>> "most popular") screenshot directly from the result page?
>> Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.

> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.

I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.

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2008/11/11 Darren Salt :
>>> Good idea. 110x80 would be a nice size for the thumbnails.
>> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.

Sorry? In which way is 110X80 a correct ratio?

Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual resolutions keep
4:3 ratio (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768...)

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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> >> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
> Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual resolutions keep
> 4:3 ratio (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768...)

Isn't the two of you assuming that screenshots are always took in
fullscreen mode? That isn't neither stated in screenshot.d.n
guidelines, nor reasonable.

So it can be that your disagreement is not that relevant

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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> 2008/11/11 Darren Salt
> :
> > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be
> > correct.
>
> Sorry? In which way is 110X80 a correct ratio?
>
> Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual
> resolutions keep 4:3 ratio (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768...)

I think Darren meant that the aspect ratio of the
screenshot should be used for the thumbnails, rather than
squash/squeeze it into any other fixed ratio.


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2008/11/11 Noah Slater :

>> So it can be that your disagreement is not that relevant

I won't keep on arguing that, my point was clear enough.

> Not at all, I was assuming that no matter what size the uploaded image is, it
> would be scaled down to fit inside a bounding box and placed in the centre of a
> white canvas. So the question remains, how large to make the canvas.

If there's some way to get that kind of image in a 320x240 canvas,
I'll modify goplay to get and use them.

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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:24:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:54:07PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> > >> I think it would be better to try to keep a 4:3 ratio.
> > > I disagree; the aspect ratio of the screenshot would be correct.
> > Conventional screens are 4:3 or 16:9, and most usual resolutions keep
> > 4:3 ratio (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768...)
>
> Isn't the two of you assuming that screenshots are always took in
> fullscreen mode? That isn't neither stated in screenshot.d.n
> guidelines, nor reasonable.
>
> So it can be that your disagreement is not that relevant

Not at all, I was assuming that no matter what size the uploaded image is, it
would be scaled down to fit inside a bounding box and placed in the centre of a
white canvas. So the question remains, how large to make the canvas.

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Hi, Florian...

On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Florian Maier wrote:
> Christoph Haas wrote:
> > Fellow developers...
> >
> > it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
> >
> > http://screenshots.debian.net
> >
> > after two weeks of programming fun.
>
> How can i contribute a german translation? ;-)

I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently not the
hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other issues are sorted
out I'll happily gettextify the application and send you a file to
translate. Thanks for the offer.

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Christoph Haas wrote:
> Fellow developers...
>
> it took a little longer than I expected but I finally launched
>
> http://screenshots.debian.net
>
> after two weeks of programming fun.
How can i contribute a german translation? ;-)

Regards,


Florian

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Hi Christoph,

Christoph Haas wrote:
> I intend to make the application i18n-savvy. But that's currently
> not the hightest priority on my todo list. As soon as the other
> issues are sorted out I'll happily gettextify the application and
> send you a file to translate.
Perfect, just get back to me as soon as you made it through your other
todos ;-)
> Thanks for the offer.
You're welcome. Thanks for the webapp!


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Christoph Haas wrote:

> On Dienstag, 11. November 2008, Paul Wise wrote:
[...]
>>
>> s.d.n/needed/sid/a
>> s.d.n/needed/etch/b
>
> That would work for Etch - but not for Sid because it's a moving target. So
> far I would just stick to the version number (not yet implemented).

Maybe one for testing would be good.

>
> Christoph

Cheers,
Raphael Geissert


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Paul Wise wrote:
[...]
>
> Version info would be useful for providing a list of packages with
> outdated screenshots in any given dist (sid/etch). Also, I think
> multiple screenshots per package are needed so that the
> packages.d.o/sid/foo and packages.d.o/etch/foo pages can point to the
> right screenshots.

That's exactly why I suggested that feature, that's for completing my idea

>
> s.d.n/outdated/sid/a
> s.d.n/outdated/etch/b
>
> Also need lists of packages without screenshots for a given dist:
>
> s.d.n/needed/sid/a
> s.d.n/needed/etch/b
>

Cheers,
Raphael Geissert



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