Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be - Debian

This is a discussion on Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be - Debian ; Hi, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549 What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without uswsusp's s2disk? -- Pelle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". ...

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  1. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Hi,

    Otavio Salvador wrote:
    > Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549


    What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without
    uswsusp's s2disk?

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  2. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Per Olofsson writes:

    > Hi,
    >
    > Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >> Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549

    >
    > What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without
    > uswsusp's s2disk?


    In some cases yes, others no however the default inclusion of it can
    hurt more then the lack of it. HAL has a nice whitelist nowadays and
    then it would be better to install it when required only.

    Bastian, anything that I missed here?

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  3. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Otavio Salvador wrote:
    > Per Olofsson writes:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >>> Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549

    >> What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without
    >> uswsusp's s2disk?

    >
    > In some cases yes, others no however the default inclusion of it can
    > hurt more then the lack of it. HAL has a nice whitelist nowadays and
    > then it would be better to install it when required only.


    AFAIK, hal calls s2ram with "-f", so it ignores s2ram's built-in
    whitelist anyway.

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  4. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Per Olofsson writes:

    > Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >> Per Olofsson writes:
    >>
    >>> Hi,
    >>>
    >>> Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >>>> Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549
    >>> What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without
    >>> uswsusp's s2disk?

    >>
    >> In some cases yes, others no however the default inclusion of it can
    >> hurt more then the lack of it. HAL has a nice whitelist nowadays and
    >> then it would be better to install it when required only.

    >
    > AFAIK, hal calls s2ram with "-f", so it ignores s2ram's built-in
    > whitelist anyway.


    Yes but this works only for GNOME/KDE that does use HAL. All other
    users are blocked to suspend by it.

    One possible solution for it is to remove it from laptop task only and
    keep it in desktop task since in this case it will use it through
    HAL.

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  5. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >> AFAIK, hal calls s2ram with "-f", so it ignores s2ram's built-in
    >> whitelist anyway.

    >
    > Yes but this works only for GNOME/KDE that does use HAL. All other
    > users are blocked to suspend by it.
    >
    > One possible solution for it is to remove it from laptop task only and
    > keep it in desktop task since in this case it will use it through
    > HAL.


    Why does it block them? They don't have to use it just because it's
    installed. They can still suspend in other ways.

    Is it because some other program calls it if it's available? pm-utils or
    hibernate...?

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  6. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
    > Is it because some other program calls it if it's available? pm-utils or
    > hibernate...?


    The inclusion in a task makes it a standard package, which have to work
    by default, not fail by default. (As long as it have the necessary
    components available.)

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  7. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:22:21PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
    > AFAIK, hal calls s2ram with "-f", so it ignores s2ram's built-in
    > whitelist anyway.


    Which makes the whitelist unused and can be fixed via #500794.

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  8. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:53:24PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
    > Otavio Salvador wrote:
    >> Drop uswsusp from desktop and laptop tasks. Closes: #501549

    > What about suspend to disk, does that work equally well without
    > uswsusp's s2disk?


    Sure. It uses the same mechanism except the image reading/writing.

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  9. Bug#501549: [SCM] tasksel repository branch, master, updated. 2.75-14-ge1326be

    Bastian Blank wrote:
    > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Per Olofsson wrote:
    >> Is it because some other program calls it if it's available? pm-utils or
    >> hibernate...?

    >
    > The inclusion in a task makes it a standard package, which have to work
    > by default, not fail by default. (As long as it have the necessary
    > components available.)


    OK, fair enough.

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