Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables - Debian

This is a discussion on Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables - Debian ; Pierre, hi again, Pierre Chifflier wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Pierre Chifflier > > * Package name : xtables-addons > Version : 1.5.7 > Upstream Author : Jan Engelhardt > * URL : http://jengelh.medozas.de/projects/xtables/ > * ...

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  1. Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables

    Pierre, hi again,

    Pierre Chifflier wrote:
    > Package: wnpp
    > Severity: wishlist
    > Owner: Pierre Chifflier
    >
    > * Package name : xtables-addons
    > Version : 1.5.7
    > Upstream Author : Jan Engelhardt
    > * URL : http://jengelh.medozas.de/projects/xtables/
    > * License : GPLv2
    > Programming Lang: C
    > Description : Extensions for iptables
    >
    > The xtables userspace code is an ongoing development effort to bring new
    > ideas to the iptables, ip6tables, arptables and ebtables userspace
    > programs. It provides a lot of patches for new features in Linux kernels
    > 2.6.25 that have not yet gone upstream into the official “iptables”
    > package.
    > It contains new targets for iptables, such as TARPIT, CHAOS, TEE, geoip,
    > etc.

    Instead of creating an alioth project for ulogd as we dicussed
    yesterday, perhaps it would make sense to create a common alioth project
    and team, say pkg-netfilter, to maintain ulogd, xtables, iptables,
    ebtables, arptables, conntrackd, libnfnetlink,
    libnetfilter-{conntrack,log,queue}, nufw?

    The involved people would be:
    Pierre Chifflier (xtables*, ulogd2, nufw)
    Laurence J. Lane (iptables)
    Jochen Friedrich (arptables & ebtables)
    Jan Christoph Nordholz (ebtables)
    Max Kellermann ("netfilter maintainers", libnf*)
    Alexander Wirt ("netfilter maintainers", libnf*)
    Hilko Bengen (ulog-acctd)
    Achilleas Kotsis (ulogd)
    myself (ulogd, I'd be interested to work on
    other packages, if needed)

    There are many similarities and/or cross-dependencies between those and
    AFAIK there are going to be more -- I've read that in the latest
    Netfilter workshop there was a proposal for nftables, an iptables
    replacement (perhaps ebtables and arptables too).
    Correct me if I'm wrong; Pierre you told me you were at the workshop,
    perhaps you know more.

    Alexander and Max already began such an effort but perhaps it's a good
    idea expanding the team and organizing it better (use alioth, a VCS etc.)

    What do you all think?

    Regards,
    Faidon


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  2. Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables

    On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 06:56:39AM +0200, Max Kellermann wrote:
    > On 2008/10/16 20:36, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
    > > There are many similarities and/or cross-dependencies between those and
    > > AFAIK there are going to be more -- I've read that in the latest
    > > Netfilter workshop there was a proposal for nftables, an iptables
    > > replacement (perhaps ebtables and arptables too).
    > > Correct me if I'm wrong; Pierre you told me you were at the workshop,
    > > perhaps you know more.
    > >
    > > Alexander and Max already began such an effort but perhaps it's a good
    > > idea expanding the team and organizing it better (use alioth, a VCS etc.)
    > >
    > > What do you all think?

    >
    > +1 from me. We are already maintaining our packages in a (private)
    > subversion repository which we could (and should) move to Alioth. Of
    > course it's a good idea to have a bigger team, since I am an
    > unofficial Debian maintainer, and sometimes Alexander doesn't have
    > enough time to sponsor my package uploads, leading to unnecessary
    > delays.
    >


    Globally, I'll agree: I'm maintaining some local copies of the packages
    anyway for our use (libnf*, mainly) on packages.inl.fr, and some of my
    packages are based on them: ulogd2, nfqueue-bindings (soon to be in
    Debian), and NuFW.

    Some of the packages are quite different anyway: xtables-addons, nufw,
    etc. Coordination would be good in any case.

    nftables won't be ready until some time, as Patrick explained in the
    NetFilter Workshop (see http://nfws.inl.fr/en/?p=92).

    So, +1 for me
    Pierre

    PS: Mark, If you need some sponsorship on libnf*, and if Alexander
    agrees, I can do that.


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  3. Re: pkg-netfilter team (was: Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables)

    Faidon Liambotis schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. October 2008:

    > Max Kellermann wrote:
    > >> What do you all think?

    > >
    > > +1 from me. We are already maintaining our packages in a (private)
    > > subversion repository which we could (and should) move to Alioth. Of
    > > course it's a good idea to have a bigger team, since I am an
    > > unofficial Debian maintainer, and sometimes Alexander doesn't have
    > > enough time to sponsor my package uploads, leading to unnecessary
    > > delays.

    > Thanks for this!
    >
    > I created an alioth project with the name of "pkg-netfilter".
    > Please apply for membership:
    > https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-netfilter/
    >
    > Please discuss with Alexander if and how we can move your private
    > repository to Alioth. I guess an svndump would be a good starting point.

    I never said I want to move to alioth.

    >
    > We should do this now, merging repositories at a later step would be far
    > more difficult.
    >
    > Also, I haven't heard back from the other maintainers (still Cc'ed) but
    > I guess we have enough packages for a packaging team to exist.
    > Still, it'd be nice to have a larger team.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Faidon



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  4. pkg-netfilter team (was: Re: Bug#502402: ITP: xtables-addons -- Extensions for iptables)

    Max Kellermann wrote:
    >> What do you all think?

    >
    > +1 from me. We are already maintaining our packages in a (private)
    > subversion repository which we could (and should) move to Alioth. Of
    > course it's a good idea to have a bigger team, since I am an
    > unofficial Debian maintainer, and sometimes Alexander doesn't have
    > enough time to sponsor my package uploads, leading to unnecessary
    > delays.

    Thanks for this!

    I created an alioth project with the name of "pkg-netfilter".
    Please apply for membership:
    https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-netfilter/

    Please discuss with Alexander if and how we can move your private
    repository to Alioth. I guess an svndump would be a good starting point.

    We should do this now, merging repositories at a later step would be far
    more difficult.

    Also, I haven't heard back from the other maintainers (still Cc'ed) but
    I guess we have enough packages for a packaging team to exist.
    Still, it'd be nice to have a larger team.

    Thanks,
    Faidon


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