Bug#501190: Reworded control - Debian

This is a discussion on Bug#501190: Reworded control - Debian ; On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:38:41AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > Package: moonlight-plugin-core > Architecture: any > Depends: ${shlibs epends} > Conflicts: moonlight > Description: open source clone of Microsoft Silverlight - core plugin > Moonlight is a free ...

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    On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:38:41AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote:
    > Package: moonlight-plugin-core
    > Architecture: any
    > Depends: ${shlibsepends}
    > Conflicts: moonlight
    > Description: open source clone of Microsoft Silverlight - core plugin
    > Moonlight is a free Silverlight clone, allowing Free Software systems to
    > run embedded web-browser objects or standalone code targetting Microsoft
    > Silverlight.


    Not true. Code targetting Microsoft Silverlight may as well depend on
    functionality not present in this package. And in fact the only notable
    example I remember (the Chinese Olympics videostreams) did.

    Again, I'm pointing to wine as an example, since the situation is the same.
    wine has this in its description:

    "This is still a work in progress and many applications may still not work."

    Would you please make that clear? We don't want to deceive our users into
    thinking Silverlight is cross-platform, do we?

    > WARNING: This is an implementation of public API documentation published on
    > MSDN,


    Not true. Take it from de Icaza himself:

    "Microsoft will give us access to the Silverlight specifications: details
    that might be necessary to implement 1.0, beyond what is currently published
    on the web; [...]"
    http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Sep-05.html

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    Btw, please keep in mind that the description issues I pointed out are
    relatively unimportant compared to legal risk (and I haven't seen that
    being discussed in debian-legal yet).

    On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:32:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
    > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:38:41AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote:
    > > Package: moonlight-plugin-core
    > > Architecture: any
    > > Depends: ${shlibsepends}
    > > Conflicts: moonlight
    > > Description: open source clone of Microsoft Silverlight - core plugin
    > > Moonlight is a free Silverlight clone, allowing Free Software systems to
    > > run embedded web-browser objects or standalone code targetting Microsoft
    > > Silverlight.

    >
    > Not true. Code targetting Microsoft Silverlight may as well depend on
    > functionality not present in this package. And in fact the only notable
    > example I remember (the Chinese Olympics videostreams) did.
    >
    > Again, I'm pointing to wine as an example, since the situation is the same.
    > wine has this in its description:
    >
    > "This is still a work in progress and many applications may still not work."
    >
    > Would you please make that clear? We don't want to deceive our users into
    > thinking Silverlight is cross-platform, do we?
    >
    > > WARNING: This is an implementation of public API documentation published on
    > > MSDN,

    >
    > Not true. Take it from de Icaza himself:
    >
    > "Microsoft will give us access to the Silverlight specifications: details
    > that might be necessary to implement 1.0, beyond what is currently published
    > on the web; [...]"
    > http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Sep-05.html
    >


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    Robert Millan

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    how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
    still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."



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