Hi,

Op Thu 22 May 2008 om 02:35:00 +0930 schreef Clytie Siddall:
>
> On 18/05/2008, at 3:26 PM, Joost van Baal wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to upload a new debian-faq package (version 4.0.1) within about
>> a
>> week. It fixes serious bug #479915.
>>
>> So, if you'd like to get any other changes (translation updates, e.g.)
>> in: now is the time. For the current status, see e.g.
>> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/ddp/ma...nk/debian-faq/ .
>
> No PO files yet? I'm still willing to translate it if it's available in
> PO format.

I plan to upload using the "old" infrastructure, without .po files.

W. Martin Borgert has started working with
manuals/branches/debian-faq/dbk-po4a-utf8 . Some stuff in .po is there.
I believe you should coordinate with him.

_If_ this stuff gets finished before the general lenny-freeze, I'd be
happy to help and try to get a po-ized faq in lenny.

Thanks, Bye,

Joost


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

iQIVAwUBSDUM0allOfYkUl6eAQLSyxAApgQCu8nml5pnw42pdu aoncGvqOSYcDs6
eWwhOAmNmWbqfe89WclBLKgXdC/cKoX5+JKoz1O8C0oBpZ6IDbvjNDkjk4//cZNW
Z3NUqdc22df6EXfOBSh2ev/N3e9/vjXq1kvo+Br6kXCqDw/4Sx3BT4LhF9Uzy4JJ
4qKIcJ+YCxtXo6uuE0VDausPgV+jnqVKzU2fa7ZMR/nPV3LNLvncrbYEeOR8BXYS
CJL0JfJrbuQXnOhrrD5aaZmCFfhQ32BrwzCiWvSBSRdBddb0nK 1xMgNIxA+7RaAP
pMQUYFS6y12QbqhsJKa04yZEfWaIWPL4R/T1mGyPzznNBD1CnNWTJOplX8ilDa82
TnzOdIeInwle/bBacLF6xxWZurNi9FzKIiz65ljfP5FiN8Q4sFp4XdLaCS1rBa/Y
Wa4yWqtLCVb7o5+3NURT+MRb9SAUCoRzJVCvEe1sKkhElAfz/jWXkVG0apMMPkIR
qDjiEJKqU4dsLmu/TKXi9TKqLmCxMO0UpSFgl13Y825KnXtLkM+XuYnCooQegz6Y
RNekZ9zmjSfyBieZPavAojAsZOGiT7SkQ1fL/bAfr8i2+taXp3LNkdmVJE1Xh2EZ
VRXGUMwBl4WoZax8641DzHdYRZStUBUGGhDtz4yrvIrPWMG47y xkp3qbyJkVMo2e
tukbhKrQjcA=
=ze67
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 22/05/2008, at 3:34 PM, Joost van Baal wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Op Thu 22 May 2008 om 02:35:00 +0930 schreef Clytie Siddall:
>>
>> On 18/05/2008, at 3:26 PM, Joost van Baal wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I plan to upload a new debian-faq package (version 4.0.1) within
>>> about
>>> a
>>> week. It fixes serious bug #479915.
>>>
>>> So, if you'd like to get any other changes (translation updates,
>>> e.g.)
>>> in: now is the time. For the current status, see e.g.
>>> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/ddp/ma...nk/debian-faq/ .
>>
>> No PO files yet? I'm still willing to translate it if it's
>> available in
>> PO format.
>
> I plan to upload using the "old" infrastructure, without .po files.
>
> W. Martin Borgert has started working with
> manuals/branches/debian-faq/dbk-po4a-utf8 . Some stuff in .po is
> there.
> I believe you should coordinate with him.

Drat, I just sent off an email to him. This is costing me imaginary
paper.
>
>
> _If_ this stuff gets finished before the general lenny-freeze, I'd be
> happy to help and try to get a po-ized faq in lenny.

Great. I'll work with Martin and see how we go. I see he already has
directories for the existing languages in dbk-po4a-utf8: all I need is
the POT file, to get started.

Martin, do you have a POT file yet, for the Debian FAQ? If not, how
long do you think before we will have one?

I notice the existing files in the other language directories are
still SGML, so I realize you haven't had time to run the conversion
yet. Please create a Vietnamese (vi) directory as well.

It would be great if we could have this ready for Lenny. (Newly-added
languages, like mine, would need a tiny lead time to add the localized
reference to the D-I Manual.)

Happy Documenting!

from Clytie

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team
http://vnoss.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects:l10n




-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

iEYEARECAAYFAkg1GB0ACgkQgPyLEUXLW+mZZACfbRhMqGfA+0 2e0UT3B9cwNCQp
PawAoKQkMZ2EfnH+AjKeoPwVnEEDvDgB
=EKcY
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:22:13PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
> Great. I'll work with Martin and see how we go. I see he already has
> directories for the existing languages in dbk-po4a-utf8: all I need is
> the POT file, to get started.

The pot files are now under po4a.
An empty vi directory waits for you :~)

> It would be great if we could have this ready for Lenny. (Newly-added
> languages, like mine, would need a tiny lead time to add the localized
> reference to the D-I Manual.)

I'm not very optimistic about having the new DocBook/UTF-8/po4a
FAQ ready for lenny. The po conversion of existing translations
(diverging a lot from the English version) is a boring,
difficult and error-prone task.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-doc-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:41:02PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:22:13PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
> > Great. I'll work with Martin and see how we go. I see he already has
> > directories for the existing languages in dbk-po4a-utf8: all I need is
> > the POT file, to get started.
>
> The pot files are now under po4a.
> An empty vi directory waits for you :~)

Really? It's not below svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/trunk/debian-faq.

Jens


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-doc-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 08:03:12PM +0200, Jens Seidel wrote:
> Really? It's not below svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/trunk/debian-faq.

Sorry, I removed the quote line from Joost about the location:
manuals/branches/debian-faq/dbk-po4a-utf8/.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-doc-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org

On 23/05/2008, at 12:11 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:

> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:22:13PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
>> Great. I'll work with Martin and see how we go. I see he already has
>> directories for the existing languages in dbk-po4a-utf8: all I need
>> is
>> the POT file, to get started.
>
> The pot files are now under po4a.
> An empty vi directory waits for you :~)

Martin, thanks for your speedy and helpful actions!

I've just reuploaded my innocent OSX SSH key, and I'm checking out the
debian-faq now. I'll get started on the FAQ translation. I note that
it's in several files, like the D-I Manual. That makes it a less
intimidating task.
>
>
>> It would be great if we could have this ready for Lenny. (Newly-added
>> languages, like mine, would need a tiny lead time to add the
>> localized
>> reference to the D-I Manual.)
>
> I'm not very optimistic about having the new DocBook/UTF-8/po4a
> FAQ ready for lenny. The po conversion of existing translations
> (diverging a lot from the English version) is a boring,
> difficult and error-prone task.


That's a pity. Why is the po4a conversion so messy? Is that a po4a
problem, or a problem with existing translations not following the
same format?

from Clytie

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team
http://vnoss.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects:l10n




-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

iEYEARECAAYFAkg3wzIACgkQgPyLEUXLW+l52QCdHB1e3CPp1T OLxvlCh2Ql2tGV
yPoAoKgQ6+8QwvabUkGP0QAv35kr8AZD
=VbXG
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 04:56:41PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
> On 23/05/2008, at 12:11 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
>> I'm not very optimistic about having the new DocBook/UTF-8/po4a
>> FAQ ready for lenny. The po conversion of existing translations
>> (diverging a lot from the English version) is a boring,
>> difficult and error-prone task.
>
> That's a pity. Why is the po4a conversion so messy? Is that a po4a
> problem, or a problem with existing translations not following the same
> format?

It's just, that the English original changed (in some chapters)
a lot since the translations have been created. In theory, it
should be easier, if one gettextises from the very version, that
has been used for the translation...


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-doc-REQUEST@lists.debian.org
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org