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  1. problem with new slashdot.org design

    Dear Debian-Kde'ers

    would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
    design in konqueror ?

    I described the problem here:
    http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738


    here is a copy/paste:
    ================================================== ============
    Version: unspecified
    Status: UNCONFIRMED
    Platform: unspecified
    Reporter: Christophe Prud'Homme
    Assigned to: Konqueror Developers
    Votes: 0 (vote)

    Version: 3.5.3 (using KDE 3.5.3, Debian Package 4:3.5.3-1
    (testing/unstable))
    Compiler: Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
    OS: Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp

    slashdot.org just changed its design. konqueror has problems
    showing it properly:

    1- some of the menus on the left are aggregated at the top left of
    the page
    2- if the window is resized, then the menus appear properly at
    their rightful place.
    3- if the windows was resized and menus ok, and I click on a new
    menu item, the same problem described in (1) occurs and I need
    to resize like in (2) to correct it.


    Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
    is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.

    Best regards
    C.
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  2. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme wrote:
    > Dear Debian-Kde'ers
    >
    > would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
    > design in konqueror ?
    >
    > I described the problem here:
    > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
    >


    >
    > Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
    > is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.

    Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy, and it's
    the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs to get it
    displayed properly.

    Best regards


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  3. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    Has anybody ever dared contacting slashdot to encourage them to make their
    site valid (X)HTML? www.w3.org contains megabytes of argumentation in favor
    of good design..

    Best,

    Rigo

    Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 15:50, sprach Isaac Clerencia:
    > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme wrote:
    > > Dear Debian-Kde'ers
    > >
    > > would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
    > > design in konqueror ?
    > >
    > > I described the problem here:
    > > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
    > > is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.

    >
    > Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy, and
    > it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs to get it
    > displayed properly.
    >
    > Best regards


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  4. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    onsdag 07 juni 2006 17:19 skrev Rigo Wenning:
    > Has anybody ever dared contacting slashdot to encourage them to make their
    > site valid (X)HTML? www.w3.org contains megabytes of argumentation in favor
    > of good design..


    Well they obviously don't like people trying to validate their html..

    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Fslashdot.org



    Anders

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  5. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

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    On Wednesday 07 June 2006 09:50, Isaac Clerencia was heard to say:
    > Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy,
    > and it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs
    > to get it displayed properly.


    I think that's a mistake. The slashdot.org site maintainers are the
    ones who made these errors, it is up to them to fix them.

    We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
    arrogance.

    Curt-


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  6. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    2006/6/7, Curt Howland :
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    > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 09:50, Isaac Clerencia was heard to say:
    > > Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy,
    > > and it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs
    > > to get it displayed properly.

    >
    > I think that's a mistake. The slashdot.org site maintainers are the
    > ones who made these errors, it is up to them to fix them.
    >
    > We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
    > arrogance.
    >
    > Curt-
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    >
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    > when validating from Opera ( right click on page -> validate) the pages

    appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save -> Validate by
    File Upload

    ▄llar


  7. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    Le Mercredi 7 Juin 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme a Úcrit :
    > Dear Debian-Kde'ers
    >
    > would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
    > design in konqueror ?
    >
    > I described the problem here:
    > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738


    For information, there's a discussion about the new slashdot design bug in
    kde-devel mailing list.

    cheers,

    Fathi

  8. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:29, Yllar Pajus wrote:

    > > when validating from Opera ( right click on page ->
    > > validate) the pages

    >
    > appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save ->
    > Validate by File Upload


    Odd, Opera 8.51 gave me "This page is not Valid HTML 4.01
    Strict!" and listed three errors.

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  9. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    This merits a slashdot on its own. I will convey that information.
    Did you know that a large part of the huge browser code is just
    error-correction for this kind of buggy sites? This way, we'll never be able
    to read slashdot on a mobile phone.

    Best,

    Rigo


    Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 17:25, sprach Anders Ellensh°j Andersen:
    >
    > Well they obviously don't like people trying to validate their html..
    >
    > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Fslashdot.org
    >
    >
    >
    > Anders
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  10. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    I don't exactly what happens (I will try without javascript)
    but opera sends a non-existent html-page to the validator. The message of the
    validator is:
    Result: Passed validation
    File: default.htm
    Encoding:iso-8859-1
    Doctype:HTML 4.01 Strict

    If you go back to slashdot and look for a file
    http://slashdot.org/default.htm you get a 404

    Perhaps opera is just giving a random name to the file it uploads to the W3C
    validator.

    But validome.org reports valid HTML (as of 8 June) and the source code seems
    to be the slashdot homepage.

    BTW, I tried with konqueror and it did not crash today.

    Best,

    Rigo

    Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 22:27, sprach Null Pointer:
    > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:29, Yllar Pajus wrote:
    > > > when validating from Opera ( right click on page ->
    > > > validate) the pages

    > >
    > > appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save ->
    > > Validate by File Upload

    >
    > Odd, Opera 8.51 gave me "This page is not Valid HTML 4.01
    > Strict!" and listed three errors.
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  11. Re: problem with new slashdot.org design

    Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 19:09, sprach Curt Howland:
    > We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
    > arrogance.


    It seems to be valid HTML now, but the CSS still has some errors:

    Errors
    URI : http://images.slashdot.org/base.css?T_2_5_0_114
    Line: 176

    Invalid number : min-width Property min-width doesn't exist : 0
    Line: 178

    Combinator ~ between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version

    http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all
    (don't be fooled by the tons of warnings

    Best,

    Rigo

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