problem with new slashdot.org design - Debian
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would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
design in konqueror ?
I described the problem here:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
here is a copy/paste:
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Version: unspecified
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Platform: unspecified
Reporter: Christophe Prud'Homme
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problem with new slashdot.org design
Dear Debian-Kde'ers
would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
design in konqueror ?
I described the problem here:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
here is a copy/paste:
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Version: unspecified
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Platform: unspecified
Reporter: Christophe Prud'Homme
Assigned to: Konqueror Developers
Votes: 0 (vote)
Version: 3.5.3 (using KDE 3.5.3, Debian Package 4:3.5.3-1
(testing/unstable))
Compiler: Target: x86_64-linux-gnu
OS: Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp
slashdot.org just changed its design. konqueror has problems
showing it properly:
1- some of the menus on the left are aggregated at the top left of
the page
2- if the window is resized, then the menus appear properly at
their rightful place.
3- if the windows was resized and menus ok, and I click on a new
menu item, the same problem described in (1) occurs and I need
to resize like in (2) to correct it.
Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.
Best regards
C.
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme wrote:
> Dear Debian-Kde'ers
>
> would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
> design in konqueror ?
>
> I described the problem here:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
>
>
> Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
> is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.
Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy, and it's
the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs to get it
displayed properly.
Best regards
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
Has anybody ever dared contacting slashdot to encourage them to make their
site valid (X)HTML? www.w3.org contains megabytes of argumentation in favor
of good design..
Best,
Rigo
Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 15:50, sprach Isaac Clerencia:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme wrote:
> > Dear Debian-Kde'ers
> >
> > would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
> > design in konqueror ?
> >
> > I described the problem here:
> > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
> >
> >
> >
> > Since the rendering bug gets fixed when the konqueror window
> > is resized, my conclusion is that it is a konqueror bug.
>
> Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy, and
> it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs to get it
> displayed properly.
>
> Best regards
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
onsdag 07 juni 2006 17:19 skrev Rigo Wenning:
> Has anybody ever dared contacting slashdot to encourage them to make their
> site valid (X)HTML? www.w3.org contains megabytes of argumentation in favor
> of good design..
Well they obviously don't like people trying to validate their html..
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Fslashdot.org

Anders
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
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On Wednesday 07 June 2006 09:50, Isaac Clerencia was heard to say:
> Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy,
> and it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs
> to get it displayed properly.
I think that's a mistake. The slashdot.org site maintainers are the
ones who made these errors, it is up to them to fix them.
We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
arrogance.
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
2006/6/7, Curt Howland :
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> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 09:50, Isaac Clerencia was heard to say:
> > Well, according to konqueror developers the design is really buggy,
> > and it's the site's fault, but they will try to workaround the bugs
> > to get it displayed properly.
>
> I think that's a mistake. The slashdot.org site maintainers are the
> ones who made these errors, it is up to them to fix them.
>
> We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
> arrogance.
>
> Curt-
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> when validating from Opera ( right click on page -> validate) the pages
appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save -> Validate by
File Upload
Üllar
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
Le Mercredi 7 Juin 2006 13:57, Christophe Prud'homme a écrit :
> Dear Debian-Kde'ers
>
> would you have also a problem with the rendering of the new slashdot.org
> design in konqueror ?
>
> I described the problem here:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128738
For information, there's a discussion about the new slashdot design bug in
kde-devel mailing list.
cheers,
Fathi
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:29, Yllar Pajus wrote:
> > when validating from Opera ( right click on page ->
> > validate) the pages
>
> appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save ->
> Validate by File Upload
Odd, Opera 8.51 gave me "This page is not Valid HTML 4.01
Strict!" and listed three errors.
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
This merits a slashdot on its own.
I will convey that information.
Did you know that a large part of the huge browser code is just
error-correction for this kind of buggy sites? This way, we'll never be able
to read slashdot on a mobile phone.
Best,
Rigo
Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 17:25, sprach Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
>
> Well they obviously don't like people trying to validate their html..
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...2Fslashdot.org
>
> 
>
> Anders
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
I don't exactly what happens (I will try without javascript)
but opera sends a non-existent html-page to the validator. The message of the
validator is:
Result: Passed validation
File: default.htm
Encoding:iso-8859-1
Doctype:HTML 4.01 Strict
If you go back to slashdot and look for a file
http://slashdot.org/default.htm you get a 404
Perhaps opera is just giving a random name to the file it uploads to the W3C
validator.
But validome.org reports valid HTML (as of 8 June) and the source code seems
to be the slashdot homepage.
BTW, I tried with konqueror and it did not crash today.
Best,
Rigo
Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 22:27, sprach Null Pointer:
> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 13:29, Yllar Pajus wrote:
> > > when validating from Opera ( right click on page ->
> > > validate) the pages
> >
> > appear to be Valid HTML 4.01 Strict. Same thing with Save ->
> > Validate by File Upload
>
> Odd, Opera 8.51 gave me "This page is not Valid HTML 4.01
> Strict!" and listed three errors.
>
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Re: problem with new slashdot.org design
Am Wednesday 07 June 2006 19:09, sprach Curt Howland:
> We can rule out "ignorance" on their part, so it's either apathy or
> arrogance.
It seems to be valid HTML now, but the CSS still has some errors:
Errors
URI : http://images.slashdot.org/base.css?T_2_5_0_114
Line: 176
Invalid number : min-width Property min-width doesn't exist : 0
Line: 178
Combinator ~ between selectors is not allowed in this profile or version
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all
(don't be fooled by the tons of warnings 
Best,
Rigo
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