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  1. kde starting

    I though to broaden the audience in the hope to get advice.
    ___________
    I forgot to mention that
    /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
    just contains
    .. /etc/X11/Xsession

    while /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
    just contains
    exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp

    Combined with the information below, I do not understand where is
    activated in order to prevent it being activated automatically. I normally
    need X and window manager twm or mwm and kde is now an irritating
    application.
    _________________________


    Following update/upgrade of debian 32 testing/unstable, launches in
    rapid sequence X-system and kde.

    Because I normally use the X-system for special applications, how to avoid
    launching kde automatically?

    I was unable to trace the config files
    ..xinitrc
    ..xserverrc
    in my home directory. I thought to comment kde there.

    Thanks a lot, sometimes one gets confused
    francesco pietra


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  2. Re: kde starting

    On 5/29/06, Francesco Pietra wrote:
    > I though to broaden the audience in the hope to get advice.
    > ___________
    > I forgot to mention that
    > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
    > just contains
    > . /etc/X11/Xsession
    >
    > while /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
    > just contains
    > exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp
    >
    > Combined with the information below, I do not understand where is
    > activated in order to prevent it being activated automatically. I normally
    > need X and window manager twm or mwm and kde is now an irritating
    > application.
    > _________________________
    >
    >
    > Following update/upgrade of debian 32 testing/unstable, launchesin
    > rapid sequence X-system and kde.
    >
    > Because I normally use the X-system for special applications, how to avoid
    > launching kde automatically?
    >
    > I was unable to trace the config files
    > .xinitrc
    > .xserverrc
    > in my home directory. I thought to comment kde there.


    Try something like
    strace -f startx 2>&1 | grep exec

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    Petr Balas - petr.balas at gmail dot com

  3. Re: kde unwillingly starting

    Hi Adam
    Thank you for the suggestion. However, from the list of files below reported I
    was unable to trace which process had launched kde. I opened kdeinit,
    klauncher, dcopserver, kded, kaccess, kicher, kgpg: all binary files.

    From xinit
    . /etc/X11/session I had already been unable to trace startkde.

    Any suggestion from the list below as to where to look ?

    Thanks again for your kind help
    francesco

    francesco@debian:~$ ps -eaf
    UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
    root 1 0 0 14:41 ? 00:00:01 init [2]
    root 2 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
    root 3 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
    root 4 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [events/0]
    root 5 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [khelper]
    root 6 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kthread]
    root 8 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/0]
    root 9 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kacpid]
    root 109 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
    root 110 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
    root 112 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [aio/0]
    root 111 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kswapd0]
    root 699 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kseriod]
    root 873 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [khubd]
    root 1505 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
    root 3277 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [reiserfs/0]
    root 3416 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 udevd --daemon
    root 3522 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [shpchpd_event]
    root 3679 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kgameportd]
    root 5726 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00
    dhclient -e -pf /var/run/dhclien
    daemon 5744 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/portmap
    root 6069 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd
    root 6075 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/klogd
    root 6088 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod
    hplip 6091 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 python /usr/sbin/hpssd
    root 6123 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
    100 6148 1 0 14:43 ?
    00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon-1 --system
    root 6159 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dirmngr --daemon --sh
    102 6204 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m
    root 6230 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
    root 6250 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/xfs -daemon
    root 6355 1 0 14:43 ?
    00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xprt -ac -pn -nolisten
    statd 6389 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd
    root 6406 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
    root 6454 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
    root 6477 1 0 14:43 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/login --
    root 6478 1 0 14:43 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root 6479 1 0 14:43 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
    root 6480 1 0 14:43 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
    root 6481 1 0 14:43 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
    root 6482 1 0 14:43 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
    1001 6554 6477 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 -bash
    1001 6565 6554 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
    1001 6581 6565 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00
    xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc --
    root 6582 6581 1 14:45 tty7 00:00:05 /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi
    100 -noliste
    1001 6598 6581 0 14:45 tty1
    00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manag
    1001 6644 6598 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
    x-session-man
    1001 6673 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit Running...
    1001 6676 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
    1001 6678 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 klauncher [kdeinit]
    1001 6680 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:01 kded [kdeinit]
    1001 6687 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S
    4096 -n
    1001 6689 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kaccess [kdeinit]
    1001 6690 6598 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 kwrapper ksmserver
    1001 6692 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 ksmserver [kdeinit]
    1001 6693 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kwin [kdeinit]
    1001 6697 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kdesktop [kdeinit]
    1001 6699 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:01 kicker [kdeinit]
    1001 6702 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kgpg
    1001 6703 6673 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6704 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 klipper [kdeinit]
    1001 6708 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 korgac --miniicon korganizer
    1001 6709 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]
    1001 6723 1 2 14:46 ? 00:00:12 kontact
    1001 6732 6673 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6739 6673 4 14:51 ? 00:00:08 konqueror [kdeinit] --silent
    1001 6740 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6741 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6742 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6744 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6749 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6753 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6754 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6755 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6756 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6757 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6782 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6789 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6797 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6923 6673 2 14:53 ? 00:00:00 konsole [kdeinit]
    1001 6924 6923 0 14:53 pts/1 00:00:00 /bin/bash
    1001 6951 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6953 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6954 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6955 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6956 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6961 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6962 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6966 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_trash [kdeinit]
    trash /tmp/k
    1001 6967 6924 0 14:54 pts/1 00:00:00 ps -eaf
    francesco@debian:~$
    ___________________________
    On Monday 29 May 2006 11:09, Adam Hardy wrote:
    > Francesco Pietra on 29/05/06 08:00, wrote:
    > > I though to broaden the audience in the hope to get advice.
    > > ___________
    > > I forgot to mention that
    > > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
    > > just contains
    > > . /etc/X11/Xsession
    > >
    > > while /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
    > > just contains
    > > exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp
    > >
    > > Combined with the information below, I do not understand where
    > > is activated in order to prevent it being activated automatically. I
    > > normally need X and window manager twm or mwm and kde is now an
    > > irritating application.
    > > _________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > Following update/upgrade of debian 32 testing/unstable, launches
    > > in rapid sequence X-system and kde.
    > >
    > > Because I normally use the X-system for special applications, how to
    > > avoid launching kde automatically?
    > >
    > > I was unable to trace the config files
    > > .xinitrc
    > > .xserverrc
    > > in my home directory. I thought to comment kde there.

    >
    > On my system, I have /usr/bin/startkde in my ~/.xinitrc.
    >
    > Just checked with 'ps -eaf' to see what process had launched startkde.
    >
    > hth
    > adam


  4. Re: kde unwillingly starting

    Sent again to add: do not pay attention to gdm. It also came from
    updating/upgrading, because I never used gnome. However, it is not configured
    and as soon as the need to configure it is presented, it dies and I can enter
    my my username. startx then starts X11 and kde. From root it is just the
    same.

    Hi Adam
    Thank you for the suggestion. However, from the list of files below reported I
    was unable to trace which process had launched kde. I opened kdeinit,
    klauncher, dcopserver, kded, kaccess, kicher, kgpg: all binary files.

    From xinit
    . /etc/X11/session I had already been unable to trace startkde.

    Any suggestion from the list below as to where to look ?

    Thanks again for your kind help
    francesco

    francesco@debian:~$ ps -eaf
    UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
    root 1 0 0 14:41 ? 00:00:01 init [2]
    root 2 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
    root 3 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
    root 4 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [events/0]
    root 5 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [khelper]
    root 6 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kthread]
    root 8 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kblockd/0]
    root 9 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kacpid]
    root 109 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
    root 110 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [pdflush]
    root 112 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [aio/0]
    root 111 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kswapd0]
    root 699 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kseriod]
    root 873 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [khubd]
    root 1505 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
    root 3277 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [reiserfs/0]
    root 3416 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 udevd --daemon
    root 3522 1 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [shpchpd_event]
    root 3679 6 0 14:41 ? 00:00:00 [kgameportd]
    root 5726 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00
    dhclient -e -pf /var/run/dhclien
    daemon 5744 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/portmap
    root 6069 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd
    root 6075 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/klogd
    root 6088 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod
    hplip 6091 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 python /usr/sbin/hpssd
    root 6123 1 0 14:42 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
    100 6148 1 0 14:43 ?
    00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon-1 --system
    root 6159 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dirmngr --daemon --sh
    102 6204 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim4 -bd -q30m
    root 6230 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
    root 6250 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/xfs -daemon
    root 6355 1 0 14:43 ?
    00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xprt -ac -pn -nolisten
    statd 6389 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd
    root 6406 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
    root 6454 1 0 14:43 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
    root 6477 1 0 14:43 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/login --
    root 6478 1 0 14:43 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root 6479 1 0 14:43 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
    root 6480 1 0 14:43 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
    root 6481 1 0 14:43 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
    root 6482 1 0 14:43 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
    1001 6554 6477 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 -bash
    1001 6565 6554 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
    1001 6581 6565 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00
    xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc --
    root 6582 6581 1 14:45 tty7 00:00:05 /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi
    100 -noliste
    1001 6598 6581 0 14:45 tty1
    00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manag
    1001 6644 6598 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
    x-session-man
    1001 6673 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit Running...
    1001 6676 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
    1001 6678 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 klauncher [kdeinit]
    1001 6680 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:01 kded [kdeinit]
    1001 6687 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S
    4096 -n
    1001 6689 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kaccess [kdeinit]
    1001 6690 6598 0 14:45 tty1 00:00:00 kwrapper ksmserver
    1001 6692 1 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 ksmserver [kdeinit]
    1001 6693 6673 0 14:45 ? 00:00:00 kwin [kdeinit]
    1001 6697 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kdesktop [kdeinit]
    1001 6699 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:01 kicker [kdeinit]
    1001 6702 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kgpg
    1001 6703 6673 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6704 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 klipper [kdeinit]
    1001 6708 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 korgac --miniicon korganizer
    1001 6709 1 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]
    1001 6723 1 2 14:46 ? 00:00:12 kontact
    1001 6732 6673 0 14:46 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6739 6673 4 14:51 ? 00:00:08 konqueror [kdeinit] --silent
    1001 6740 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6741 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6742 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit]
    file /tmp/kso
    1001 6744 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6749 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6753 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6754 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6755 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6756 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6757 6673 0 14:51 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6782 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6789 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6797 6673 0 14:52 ? 00:00:00 kio_http [kdeinit]
    http /tmp/kso
    1001 6923 6673 2 14:53 ? 00:00:00 konsole [kdeinit]
    1001 6924 6923 0 14:53 pts/1 00:00:00 /bin/bash
    1001 6951 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6953 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6954 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6955 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_system [kdeinit]
    system /tmp
    1001 6956 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6961 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6962 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_media [kdeinit]
    media /tmp/k
    1001 6966 6673 0 14:54 ? 00:00:00 kio_trash [kdeinit]
    trash /tmp/k
    1001 6967 6924 0 14:54 pts/1 00:00:00 ps -eaf
    francesco@debian:~$
    ___________________________
    On Monday 29 May 2006 11:09, Adam Hardy wrote:
    > Francesco Pietra on 29/05/06 08:00, wrote:
    > > I though to broaden the audience in the hope to get advice.
    > > ___________
    > > I forgot to mention that
    > > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
    > > just contains
    > > . /etc/X11/Xsession
    > >
    > > while /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
    > > just contains
    > > exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp
    > >
    > > Combined with the information below, I do not understand where
    > > is activated in order to prevent it being activated automatically. I
    > > normally need X and window manager twm or mwm and kde is now an
    > > irritating application.
    > > _________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > Following update/upgrade of debian 32 testing/unstable, launches
    > > in rapid sequence X-system and kde.
    > >
    > > Because I normally use the X-system for special applications, how to
    > > avoid launching kde automatically?
    > >
    > > I was unable to trace the config files
    > > .xinitrc
    > > .xserverrc
    > > in my home directory. I thought to comment kde there.

    >
    > On my system, I have /usr/bin/startkde in my ~/.xinitrc.
    >
    > Just checked with 'ps -eaf' to see what process had launched startkde.
    >
    > hth
    > adam


  5. Re: kde unwillingly starting

    On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:25:17PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
    [snip info from kde stuff]

    I don't know if this has been suggested on the debian-kde list, but have
    you done an 'update-alternatives --config x-window-manager' and set it
    to something other than kde?

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    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    In love, she who gives her portrait promises the original.
    -- Bruton


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  6. Re: kde unwillingly starting

    I used your suggested command. The default was:
    /usr/bib/kwin

    I selected the second alternative of window manager as default:
    /usr/X11R6/bin/mwm

    At boot there are slight differences, such as the printer being switched on
    with less noise (this automatic switching on is also a consequence of the
    upgrading) but KDE starts automatically as before.

    francesco



    On Monday 29 May 2006 18:03, Christopher Nelson wrote:
    > On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:25:17PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
    > [snip info from kde stuff]
    >
    > I don't know if this has been suggested on the debian-kde list, but have
    > you done an 'update-alternatives --config x-window-manager' and set it
    > to something other than kde?
    >
    > --
    > Christopher Nelson -- chris@cavein.org
    > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > In love, she who gives her portrait promises the original.
    > -- Bruton



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