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Problems with hal, devices and udev
Hi,
I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to have kde
3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical windows asking
you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and really, after
googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
The packages:
.....
ii linux-image-2.6.15-1-686-smp 2.6.15-2
in another without smp, but I don't think that it's an important issue.
ii hal 0.5.5.1-5
ii hal-device-manager 0.5.5.1-5
ii libhal-storage1 0.5.5.1-5
ii libhal1 0.5.5.1-5
and a kde3.5
in the fstab no /sys, etc .
First, when the box is booting, it stoped in:
Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd
in both boxes
so I have to ctrl+c to continue booting and finally, the the kdm is up,
manually do a /etc/init.d/udev start without any problem. Why?
And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no windows
appears. What I'm doing wrong?
Regards,
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to have kde
> 3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical windows asking
> you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and really, after
> googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
>
> The packages:
> ....
> ii linux-image-2.6.15-1-686-smp 2.6.15-2
> in another without smp, but I don't think that it's an important issue.
> ii hal 0.5.5.1-5
> ii hal-device-manager 0.5.5.1-5
> ii libhal-storage1 0.5.5.1-5
> ii libhal1 0.5.5.1-5
>
> and a kde3.5
Just some things to check: Make sure that you have the package "dbus"
installed and not "dbus-1". (This should have been done automatically by
apt-get/aptitude for your version of hal, though.) Likewise, see about
package "libdbus-glib-1-2" which replaces package "dbus-glib-1", and
make sure that you have udev version 0.081-1. Also, if you have an older
installation which used to have hotplug earlier, I think it is important
that you purge the hotplug configuration files, otherwise there can be
problems with udev.
> in the fstab no /sys, etc .
>
> First, when the box is booting, it stoped in:
> Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd
>
> in both boxes
> so I have to ctrl+c to continue booting and finally, the the kdm is up,
> manually do a /etc/init.d/udev start without any problem. Why?
Maybe one of the things I mentioned above is causing this behavior.
> And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no windows
> appears. What I'm doing wrong?
You need to install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
"plugdev". Then you should be able to activate "automatic" desktop icons
for your pluggable devices in the "KDE Control Center > Desktop >
Behavior > Device Icons" dialog.
Regards,
Florian
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
A Dilluns 23 Gener 2006 13:49, Florian Kulzer va escriure:
> Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to have
> > kde 3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical windows
> > asking you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and really,
> > after googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
> >
> > The packages:
> > ....
> > ii linux-image-2.6.15-1-686-smp 2.6.15-2
> > in another without smp, but I don't think that it's an important issue.
> > ii hal 0.5.5.1-5
> > ii hal-device-manager 0.5.5.1-5
> > ii libhal-storage1 0.5.5.1-5
> > ii libhal1 0.5.5.1-5
> >
> > and a kde3.5
>
> Just some things to check: Make sure that you have the package "dbus"
> installed and not "dbus-1". (This should have been done automatically by
> apt-get/aptitude for your version of hal, though.) Likewise, see about
> package "libdbus-glib-1-2" which replaces package "dbus-glib-1", and
> make sure that you have udev version 0.081-1. Also, if you have an older
> installation which used to have hotplug earlier, I think it is important
> that you purge the hotplug configuration files, otherwise there can be
> problems with udev.
ii udev 0.081-1
and hotplug purged.
dbus installed, not dbus-1.
> > in the fstab no /sys, etc .
> >
> > First, when the box is booting, it stoped in:
> > Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd
> >
> > in both boxes
> > so I have to ctrl+c to continue booting and finally, the the kdm is up,
> > manually do a /etc/init.d/udev start without any problem. Why?
>
> Maybe one of the things I mentioned above is causing this behavior.
no lucky ..... it continues ..... :-(
> > And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
> > windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
>
> You need to install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
> "plugdev". Then you should be able to activate "automatic" desktop icons
> for your pluggable devices in the "KDE Control Center > Desktop >
> Behavior > Device Icons" dialog.
also, it doesn't work ..... really I begin to be a bit desesperately. It
really bothers me that a boy near me with redhat can mount pen drive with a
nice window without any problem and I with debian can't !!
Regards,
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
[...]
>
>>>And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
>>>windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
>>
>>You need to install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
>>"plugdev". Then you should be able to activate "automatic" desktop icons
>>for your pluggable devices in the "KDE Control Center > Desktop >
>>Behavior > Device Icons" dialog.
>
>
> also, it doesn't work ..... really I begin to be a bit desesperately. It
> really bothers me that a boy near me with redhat can mount pen drive with a
> nice window without any problem and I with debian can't !!
I would have expected that KDE will manage to put an icon on the desktop
if the device shows up in the syslog. Did you try to use pmount from the
konsole to see if it works, e.g. "pmount /dev/sda1 usb"? Then the device
should be mounted under /media/usb. Maybe you will get an error message
that helps to identify the cause of the problem.
If pmount works on its own then the problem is with KDE. I think you
mentioned in your first mail that you run a "mixed testing/unstable"
system. Maybe it is worthwhile to check that you do not have any old KDE
3.4 libraries left installed anywhere, e.g. with
dpkg -l "*" | grep -i kde | grep 3.4
You could also consider using the package "usbmount". I have no
experience with it myself, but I remember some people on debian-user
recommending it.
Regards,
Florian
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
A Dilluns 23 Gener 2006 20:21, Florian Kulzer va escriure:
> Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> [...]
>
> >>>And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
> >>>windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
> >>
> >>You need to install the package "pmount" and add your user to the group
> >>"plugdev". Then you should be able to activate "automatic" desktop icons
> >>for your pluggable devices in the "KDE Control Center > Desktop >
> >>Behavior > Device Icons" dialog.
> >
> > also, it doesn't work ..... really I begin to be a bit desesperately. It
> > really bothers me that a boy near me with redhat can mount pen drive with
> > a nice window without any problem and I with debian can't !!
>
> I would have expected that KDE will manage to put an icon on the desktop
> if the device shows up in the syslog. Did you try to use pmount from the
> konsole to see if it works, e.g. "pmount /dev/sda1 usb"? Then the device
> should be mounted under /media/usb. Maybe you will get an error message
> that helps to identify the cause of the problem.
Well, it works and no message is prompted. Running it with debug options show
this:
palomo@lira:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 usb
resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1
mount point to be used: /media/usb
no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ANSI_X3.4-1968
Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1
device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow...
device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0
find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1
find_sysfs_device: checking whether /dev/sda1 is on /sys/block/sda (8:0)
find_sysfs_device: major device numbers match
find_sysfs_device: minor device numbers do not match, checking partitions...
find_sysfs_device: checking whether device /dev/sda1 matches partition 8:0
find_sysfs_device: checking whether device /dev/sda1 matches partition 8:1
find_sysfs_device: -> partition matches, belongs to block
device /sys/block/sda
device_removable: corresponding block device for /dev/sda1 is /sys/block/sda
get_blockdev_attr: value of /sys/block/sda/removable == 1
policy check passed
spawnv(): executing /sbin/cryptsetup '/sbin/cryptsetup' 'isLuks' '/dev/sda1'
spawn(): /sbin/cryptsetup terminated with status 255
device is not LUKS encrypted, or cryptsetup with LUKS support is not installed
locking mount point directory
mount point directory locked
spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'udf' '-o'
'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003,umask=007'
'/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'iso9660' '-o'
'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003' '/dev/sda1'
'/media/usb'
spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'vfat' '-o'
'nosuid,nodev,user,quiet,shortname=mixed,async,ati me,noexec,uid=1003,gid=1003,umask=077'
'/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 0
unlocking mount point directory
mount point directory unlocked
> If pmount works on its own then the problem is with KDE. I think you
> mentioned in your first mail that you run a "mixed testing/unstable"
> system. Maybe it is worthwhile to check that you do not have any old KDE
> 3.4 libraries left installed anywhere, e.g. with
> dpkg -l "*" | grep -i kde | grep 3.4
I have purged all the old packages and the problem continues ...
> You could also consider using the package "usbmount". I have no
> experience with it myself, but I remember some people on debian-user
> recommending it.
I have installed it but I would prefer to have a window asking what to do.
There are some questions also, I have found that you cannot have any device
that mount in /sys. I have had some devices and I have comment it in the
fstab (and also the /dev/sda that pmount said that there was a problem) and
reboot, etc.... but if I do a cat /etc/mtab I found this:
.....
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
......
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
....
binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
.....
this is normal?
Regards,
and thank's for your patience.
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
[...]
> Well, it works and no message is prompted. Running it with debug options show
> this:
>
> palomo@lira:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 usb
> resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1
> mount point to be used: /media/usb
> no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ANSI_X3.4-1968
> Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1
> device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow...
> device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0
> find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1
> find_sysfs_device: checking whether /dev/sda1 is on /sys/block/sda (8:0)
> find_sysfs_device: major device numbers match
> find_sysfs_device: minor device numbers do not match, checking partitions...
> find_sysfs_device: checking whether device /dev/sda1 matches partition 8:0
> find_sysfs_device: checking whether device /dev/sda1 matches partition 8:1
> find_sysfs_device: -> partition matches, belongs to block
> device /sys/block/sda
> device_removable: corresponding block device for /dev/sda1 is /sys/block/sda
> get_blockdev_attr: value of /sys/block/sda/removable == 1
> policy check passed
> spawnv(): executing /sbin/cryptsetup '/sbin/cryptsetup' 'isLuks' '/dev/sda1'
> spawn(): /sbin/cryptsetup terminated with status 255
> device is not LUKS encrypted, or cryptsetup with LUKS support is not installed
> locking mount point directory
> mount point directory locked
> spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'udf' '-o'
> 'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003,umask=007'
> '/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
> spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
> spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'iso9660' '-o'
> 'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003' '/dev/sda1'
> '/media/usb'
> spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
> spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'vfat' '-o'
> 'nosuid,nodev,user,quiet,shortname=mixed,async,ati me,noexec,uid=1003,gid=1003,umask=077'
> '/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
> spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 0
> unlocking mount point directory
> mount point directory unlocked
Well, that looks like everything is OK with pmount. So I would assume
that the problem is that udev does not use dbus properly to notify KDE
about the fact that a new device was plugged in. Unfortunately I have no
knowledge about how exactly this works, so I have no idea about the best
way to approach this issue. You might find useful info in the links
given in the following mail:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2.../msg00410.html
>>If pmount works on its own then the problem is with KDE. I think you
>>mentioned in your first mail that you run a "mixed testing/unstable"
>>system. Maybe it is worthwhile to check that you do not have any old KDE
>>3.4 libraries left installed anywhere, e.g. with
>>dpkg -l "*" | grep -i kde | grep 3.4
>
>
> I have purged all the old packages and the problem continues ...
When I plug in a USB device, I immediately see some harddisk access
(syslog etc.) and then, after 1-2 seconds, there is a short spike in CPU
activity and the icon appears on my desktop. Do you observe something
similar on your system? If so, are there any related error messages in
~/.xsession-errors? Note that you also need to have the option for the
"unmounted removable device" checked in the KDE Control Center, since
the device is only mounted after you click on the icon. (I assume you
have figured this out yourself already, but I want to make sure that
your problem is not due to a simple misunderstanding...)
> There are some questions also, I have found that you cannot have any device
> that mount in /sys. I have had some devices and I have comment it in the
> fstab (and also the /dev/sda that pmount said that there was a problem) and
> reboot, etc.... but if I do a cat /etc/mtab I found this:
>
> ....
> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
> .....
> usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
> ...
> binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
> ....
>
> this is normal?
Yes, it is the same on my computers. These are "pseudo-filesystems"
which allow you to read and set certain properties of your system. For
example, if you do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" you will get information about
your CPU, but this info is not stored anywhere on a harddisk, but rather
provided on the fly by the kernel whenever that particular "file" is
accessed.
Regards,
Florian
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
A Dimarts 24 Gener 2006 14:03, Florian Kulzer va escriure:
[.......]
> Well, that looks like everything is OK with pmount. So I would assume
> that the problem is that udev does not use dbus properly to notify KDE
> about the fact that a new device was plugged in. Unfortunately I have no
> knowledge about how exactly this works, so I have no idea about the best
> way to approach this issue. You might find useful info in the links
> given in the following mail:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2.../msg00410.html
Ok, there are a lot of mails, but I will see if I find something.
> >>If pmount works on its own then the problem is with KDE. I think you
> >>mentioned in your first mail that you run a "mixed testing/unstable"
> >>system. Maybe it is worthwhile to check that you do not have any old KDE
> >>3.4 libraries left installed anywhere, e.g. with
> >>dpkg -l "*" | grep -i kde | grep 3.4
> >
> > I have purged all the old packages and the problem continues ...
>
> When I plug in a USB device, I immediately see some harddisk access
> (syslog etc.) and then, after 1-2 seconds, there is a short spike in CPU
> activity and the icon appears on my desktop. Do you observe something
> similar on your system?
yes but not the icon. It's strange to me, because in my box at home, appears a
nice windows asking about what to do with the device...
> If so, are there any related error messages in
> ~/.xsession-errors?
well, the last messages aren't about any of udev, etc.
> Note that you also need to have the option for the
> "unmounted removable device" checked in the KDE Control Center, since
> the device is only mounted after you click on the icon. (I assume you
> have figured this out yourself already, but I want to make sure that
> your problem is not due to a simple misunderstanding...)
Ok, it's active. It's ok, very ok to comment it because I have the suspicious
that it's a stupid thing. I have realized that in konqueror I have not any
devices i the toolbar of the left, and I don't know why. Maybe it's something
about the problem ....
> > proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
> > .....
> > usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
> > ...
> > binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
> > ....
> >
> > this is normal?
>
> Yes, it is the same on my computers. These are "pseudo-filesystems"
> which allow you to read and set certain properties of your system. For
> example, if you do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" you will get information about
> your CPU, but this info is not stored anywhere on a harddisk, but rather
> provided on the fly by the kernel whenever that particular "file" is
> accessed.
>
thank's Florian, really thank's,
regards,
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Well.... I have two mixed systems. On one it works on the other, it doesn't.
I've been trying to figure out why is doesn't on the one system to no avail.
I'll compare package version numbers.,..
Chris
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:03, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Well, it works and no message is prompted. Running it with debug options
> > show this:
> >
> > palomo@lira:~$ pmount -d /dev/sda1 usb
> > resolved /dev/sda1 to device /dev/sda1
> > mount point to be used: /media/usb
> > no iocharset given, current locale encoding is ANSI_X3.4-1968
> > Cleaning lock directory /var/lock/pmount/_dev_sda1
> > device_whitelist: checking /etc/pmount.allow...
> > device_whitlisted(): nothing matched, returning 0
> > find_sysfs_device: looking for sysfs directory for device 8:1
> > find_sysfs_device: checking whether /dev/sda1 is on /sys/block/sda (8:0)
> > find_sysfs_device: major device numbers match
> > find_sysfs_device: minor device numbers do not match, checking
> > partitions... find_sysfs_device: checking whether device /dev/sda1
> > matches partition 8:0 find_sysfs_device: checking whether device
> > /dev/sda1 matches partition 8:1 find_sysfs_device: -> partition matches,
> > belongs to block
> > device /sys/block/sda
> > device_removable: corresponding block device for /dev/sda1 is
> > /sys/block/sda get_blockdev_attr: value of /sys/block/sda/removable == 1
> > policy check passed
> > spawnv(): executing /sbin/cryptsetup '/sbin/cryptsetup' 'isLuks'
> > '/dev/sda1' spawn(): /sbin/cryptsetup terminated with status 255
> > device is not LUKS encrypted, or cryptsetup with LUKS support is not
> > installed locking mount point directory
> > mount point directory locked
> > spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'udf' '-o'
> > 'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003,umask=007'
> > '/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
> > spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
> > spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'iso9660' '-o'
> > 'nosuid,nodev,user,async,atime,noexec,uid=1003,gid =1003' '/dev/sda1'
> > '/media/usb'
> > spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 32
> > spawnv(): executing /bin/mount '/bin/mount' '-t' 'vfat' '-o'
> > 'nosuid,nodev,user,quiet,shortname=mixed,async,ati me,noexec,uid=1003,gid=
> >1003,umask=077' '/dev/sda1' '/media/usb'
> > spawn(): /bin/mount terminated with status 0
> > unlocking mount point directory
> > mount point directory unlocked
>
> Well, that looks like everything is OK with pmount. So I would assume
> that the problem is that udev does not use dbus properly to notify KDE
> about the fact that a new device was plugged in. Unfortunately I have no
> knowledge about how exactly this works, so I have no idea about the best
> way to approach this issue. You might find useful info in the links
> given in the following mail:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2.../msg00410.html
>
> >>If pmount works on its own then the problem is with KDE. I think you
> >>mentioned in your first mail that you run a "mixed testing/unstable"
> >>system. Maybe it is worthwhile to check that you do not have any old KDE
> >>3.4 libraries left installed anywhere, e.g. with
> >>dpkg -l "*" | grep -i kde | grep 3.4
> >
> > I have purged all the old packages and the problem continues ...
>
> When I plug in a USB device, I immediately see some harddisk access
> (syslog etc.) and then, after 1-2 seconds, there is a short spike in CPU
> activity and the icon appears on my desktop. Do you observe something
> similar on your system? If so, are there any related error messages in
> ~/.xsession-errors? Note that you also need to have the option for the
> "unmounted removable device" checked in the KDE Control Center, since
> the device is only mounted after you click on the icon. (I assume you
> have figured this out yourself already, but I want to make sure that
> your problem is not due to a simple misunderstanding...)
>
> > There are some questions also, I have found that you cannot have any
> > device that mount in /sys. I have had some devices and I have comment it
> > in the fstab (and also the /dev/sda that pmount said that there was a
> > problem) and reboot, etc.... but if I do a cat /etc/mtab I found this:
> >
> > ....
> > proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> > sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
> > .....
> > usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
> > ...
> > binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
> > ....
> >
> > this is normal?
>
> Yes, it is the same on my computers. These are "pseudo-filesystems"
> which allow you to read and set certain properties of your system. For
> example, if you do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" you will get information about
> your CPU, but this info is not stored anywhere on a harddisk, but rather
> provided on the fly by the kernel whenever that particular "file" is
> accessed.
>
> Regards,
> Florian
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
[...]
>>When I plug in a USB device, I immediately see some harddisk access
>>(syslog etc.) and then, after 1-2 seconds, there is a short spike in CPU
>>activity and the icon appears on my desktop. Do you observe something
>>similar on your system?
>
>
> yes but not the icon. It's strange to me, because in my box at home, appears a
> nice windows asking about what to do with the device...
This has reminded me of something else: Check if the option "Enable HAL
Backend" is activated in the "KDE Control Center > Peripherals > Storage
Media > Advanced" menu. I do not remember anymore if this was activated
automatically or if I had to do it manually. The "Notifications" menu
might also be relevant.
[...]
> Ok, it's active. It's ok, very ok to comment it because I have the suspicious
> that it's a stupid thing. I have realized that in konqueror I have not any
> devices i the toolbar of the left, and I don't know why. Maybe it's something
> about the problem ....
I think this is an unrelated bug. I also "lost" my devices in konqueror
when I went from hotplug to udev. Now I get a "Protocol not supported"
error whenever I click on the devices icon, but my pluggable device
icons on the desktop still work. Therefore I think you don't have to
worry about this right now.
Regards,
Florian
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 17:29, Chris wrote:
> Well.... I have two mixed systems. On one it works on the other, it
> doesn't. I've been trying to figure out why is doesn't on the one system to
> no avail.
>
> I'll compare package version numbers.,..
>
> Chris
I found that updating udev and hal to unstable got things working with KDE
3.5!!! The version numbers I have installed for that stuff is at the bottom
of this list.
A few days ago Florian Kulzer wrote a nice email on getting devices to show in
panel or on the desktop. The only differences I noticed to what he wrote is
that dbus-1 seems to get replaced by dbus in unstable.
Chris
ii kde-icons-crystal 3.7-2 Crystal icon
theme for KDE
ii kde-icons-crystalclear 0.0.20050623-1 Everaldo's
"Crystal Clear" icon theme for KDE
ii kde-icons-mono 3.5.0-3 a
monochromatic icons theme for KDE
ii kde-icons-noia 1.0-2 Noia icon
theme for KDE 3
ii kde-icons-nuovext 1.6-1 nuoveXT icon
theme for KDE
ii kde-icons-nuvola 1.0.0-1 Nuvola icon
theme for KDE3
ii kde-servicemenus-kim 0.6.1-1 Kde service
menu for Image manipulation
ii kdeadmin 3.5.0-4 system
adminstration tools from the official KDE release
ii kdeadmin-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-4 KDE file
metainfo plugins for deb and rpm files
ii kdeartwork 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 themes, styles
and more from the official KDE release
ii kdeartwork-emoticons 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 emoticon
collections for KDE chat clients
ii kdeartwork-misc 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 various
multimedia goodies released with KDE
ii kdeartwork-style 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 widget styles
released with KDE
ii kdeartwork-theme-icon 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 icon themes
released with KDE
ii kdeartwork-theme-window 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 window
decoration themes released with KDE
ii kdebase 3.5.0-4 base
components from the official KDE release
ii kdebase-bin 3.5.0-4 core binaries
for the KDE base module
ii kdebase-data 3.5.0-4 shared data
files for the KDE base module
ii kdebase-kio-plugins 3.5.0-4 core I/O
slaves for KDE
ii kdebluetooth 0.99+1.0beta1-6+b1 KDE Bluetooth
Framework
ii kdegames-card-data 3.4.3-2 Card decks for
KDE games
ii kdegraphics 3.5.0-3 graphics apps
from the official KDE release
ii kdegraphics-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3 KDE metainfo
plugins for graphic files
ii kdelibs 3.5.0-3 core libraries
from the official KDE release
ii kdelibs-bin 3.5.0-3 core binaries
for all KDE applications
ii kdelibs-data 3.5.0-3 core shared
data for all KDE applications
ii kdelibs4c2a 3.5.0-3 core libraries
for all KDE applications
ii kdelirc 3.5.0-3 infrared
control for KDE
ii kdemultimedia 3.5.0-3 multimedia
apps from the official KDE release
ii kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data 3.5.0-3 multimedia
data for kappfinder
ii kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3
au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile
ii kdemultimedia-kio-plugins 3.5.0-3 enables the
browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror
ii kdenetwork 3.5.0-3
network-related apps from the official KDE release
ii kdenetwork-filesharing 3.5.0-3 network
filesharing configuration module for KDE
ii kdenetwork-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3 torrent
metainfo plugin for KDE
ii kdepasswd 3.5.0-4 password
changer for KDE
ii kdepim 3.5.0-5 KDE Personal
Information Management metapackage
ii kdepim-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-5 KDE File
dialog plugins for palm and vcf files
ii kdepim-kio-plugins 3.5.0-5 KDE pim I/O
Slaves
ii kdepim-kresources 3.5.0-5 KDE pim
resource plugins
ii kdepim-wizards 3.5.0-5 KDE server
configuration wizards
ii kdeprint 3.5.0-4 print system
for KDE
ii kdesktop 3.5.0-4 miscellaneous
binaries and files for the KDE desktop
ii kdessh 3.5.0-3 ssh frontend
for KDE
ii kdetoys 3.5.0-3 toys from the
official KDE release
ii kdeutils 3.5.0-3 general
purpose utilities from the official KDE release
ii kdewallpapers 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 wallpapers
released with KDE
ii libkdepim1a 3.5.0-5 KDE PIM
library
ii liblockdev1 1.0.2-1 Run-time
shared library for locking devices
ii openoffice.org-kde 2.0.0-5 KDE
Integration for OpenOffice.org (Widgets, Dialogs, Addressboo
ii udev 0.076-6 /dev/ and
hotplug management daemon
ii hal 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
Abstraction Layer
ii libhal-storage1 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
Abstraction Layer - shared library for storage devices
ii libhal1 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
Abstraction Layer - shared library
ii dbus 0.60-5 simple
interprocess messaging system
ii libdbus-1-2 0.60-5 simple
interprocess messaging system
ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.60-5 simple
interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library)
ii libdbus-qt-1-1c2 0.60-5 simple
interprocess messaging system (Qt-based shared library)
ii pmount 0.9.7-2 mount
removable devices as normal user
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
A Dimarts 24 Gener 2006 20:19, Florian Kulzer va escriure:
> Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> [...]
>
> >>When I plug in a USB device, I immediately see some harddisk access
> >>(syslog etc.) and then, after 1-2 seconds, there is a short spike in CPU
> >>activity and the icon appears on my desktop. Do you observe something
> >>similar on your system?
> >
> > yes but not the icon. It's strange to me, because in my box at home,
> > appears a nice windows asking about what to do with the device...
>
> This has reminded me of something else: Check if the option "Enable HAL
> Backend" is activated in the "KDE Control Center > Peripherals > Storage
> Media > Advanced" menu. I do not remember anymore if this was activated
> automatically or if I had to do it manually. The "Notifications" menu
> might also be relevant.
yes, it's actived ....
> [...]
>
> > Ok, it's active. It's ok, very ok to comment it because I have the
> > suspicious that it's a stupid thing. I have realized that in konqueror I
> > have not any devices i the toolbar of the left, and I don't know why.
> > Maybe it's something about the problem ....
>
> I think this is an unrelated bug. I also "lost" my devices in konqueror
> when I went from hotplug to udev. Now I get a "Protocol not supported"
> error whenever I click on the devices icon, but my pluggable device
> icons on the desktop still work. Therefore I think you don't have to
> worry about this right now.
ok, thank's for all Florian,
regards,
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
lucky boy .......
A Dimarts 24 Gener 2006 23:51, Chris va escriure:
> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 17:29, Chris wrote:
> > Well.... I have two mixed systems. On one it works on the other, it
> > doesn't. I've been trying to figure out why is doesn't on the one system
> > to no avail.
> >
> > I'll compare package version numbers.,..
> >
> > Chris
>
> I found that updating udev and hal to unstable got things working with KDE
> 3.5!!! The version numbers I have installed for that stuff is at the
> bottom of this list.
>
> A few days ago Florian Kulzer wrote a nice email on getting devices to show
> in panel or on the desktop. The only differences I noticed to what he
> wrote is that dbus-1 seems to get replaced by dbus in unstable.
>
> Chris
>
> ii kde-icons-crystal 3.7-2 Crystal
> icon theme for KDE
> ii kde-icons-crystalclear 0.0.20050623-1 Everaldo's
> "Crystal Clear" icon theme for KDE
> ii kde-icons-mono 3.5.0-3 a
> monochromatic icons theme for KDE
> ii kde-icons-noia 1.0-2 Noia icon
> theme for KDE 3
> ii kde-icons-nuovext 1.6-1 nuoveXT
> icon theme for KDE
> ii kde-icons-nuvola 1.0.0-1 Nuvola icon
> theme for KDE3
> ii kde-servicemenus-kim 0.6.1-1 Kde service
> menu for Image manipulation
> ii kdeadmin 3.5.0-4 system
> adminstration tools from the official KDE release
> ii kdeadmin-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-4 KDE file
> metainfo plugins for deb and rpm files
> ii kdeartwork 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 themes,
> styles and more from the official KDE release
> ii kdeartwork-emoticons 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 emoticon
> collections for KDE chat clients
> ii kdeartwork-misc 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 various
> multimedia goodies released with KDE
> ii kdeartwork-style 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 widget
> styles released with KDE
> ii kdeartwork-theme-icon 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 icon themes
> released with KDE
> ii kdeartwork-theme-window 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 window
> decoration themes released with KDE
> ii kdebase 3.5.0-4 base
> components from the official KDE release
> ii kdebase-bin 3.5.0-4 core
> binaries for the KDE base module
> ii kdebase-data 3.5.0-4 shared data
> files for the KDE base module
> ii kdebase-kio-plugins 3.5.0-4 core I/O
> slaves for KDE
> ii kdebluetooth 0.99+1.0beta1-6+b1 KDE
> Bluetooth Framework
> ii kdegames-card-data 3.4.3-2 Card decks
> for KDE games
> ii kdegraphics 3.5.0-3 graphics
> apps from the official KDE release
> ii kdegraphics-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3 KDE
> metainfo plugins for graphic files
> ii kdelibs 3.5.0-3 core
> libraries from the official KDE release
> ii kdelibs-bin 3.5.0-3 core
> binaries for all KDE applications
> ii kdelibs-data 3.5.0-3 core shared
> data for all KDE applications
> ii kdelibs4c2a 3.5.0-3 core
> libraries for all KDE applications
> ii kdelirc 3.5.0-3 infrared
> control for KDE
> ii kdemultimedia 3.5.0-3 multimedia
> apps from the official KDE release
> ii kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data 3.5.0-3 multimedia
> data for kappfinder
> ii kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3
> au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile
> ii kdemultimedia-kio-plugins 3.5.0-3 enables the
> browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror
> ii kdenetwork 3.5.0-3
> network-related apps from the official KDE release
> ii kdenetwork-filesharing 3.5.0-3 network
> filesharing configuration module for KDE
> ii kdenetwork-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-3 torrent
> metainfo plugin for KDE
> ii kdepasswd 3.5.0-4 password
> changer for KDE
> ii kdepim 3.5.0-5 KDE
> Personal Information Management metapackage
> ii kdepim-kfile-plugins 3.5.0-5 KDE File
> dialog plugins for palm and vcf files
> ii kdepim-kio-plugins 3.5.0-5 KDE pim I/O
> Slaves
> ii kdepim-kresources 3.5.0-5 KDE pim
> resource plugins
> ii kdepim-wizards 3.5.0-5 KDE server
> configuration wizards
> ii kdeprint 3.5.0-4 print
> system for KDE
> ii kdesktop 3.5.0-4
> miscellaneous binaries and files for the KDE desktop
> ii kdessh 3.5.0-3 ssh
> frontend for KDE
> ii kdetoys 3.5.0-3 toys from
> the official KDE release
> ii kdeutils 3.5.0-3 general
> purpose utilities from the official KDE release
> ii kdewallpapers 3.5.0.dfsg.1-2 wallpapers
> released with KDE
> ii libkdepim1a 3.5.0-5 KDE PIM
> library
> ii liblockdev1 1.0.2-1 Run-time
> shared library for locking devices
> ii openoffice.org-kde 2.0.0-5 KDE
> Integration for OpenOffice.org (Widgets, Dialogs, Addressboo
> ii udev 0.076-6 /dev/ and
> hotplug management daemon
> ii hal 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
> Abstraction Layer
> ii libhal-storage1 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
> Abstraction Layer - shared library for storage devices
> ii libhal1 0.5.5.1-5 Hardware
> Abstraction Layer - shared library
> ii dbus 0.60-5 simple
> interprocess messaging system
> ii libdbus-1-2 0.60-5 simple
> interprocess messaging system
> ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.60-5 simple
> interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library)
> ii libdbus-qt-1-1c2 0.60-5 simple
> interprocess messaging system (Qt-based shared library)
> ii pmount 0.9.7-2 mount
> removable devices as normal user
>
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
On Monday 23 January 2006 12:04, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to have
> kde 3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical windows
> asking you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and really,
> after googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
> And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
> windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
I had the same problem. It seems that 'usbmount' is capturing the plugging
events somehow. Purging the 'usbmount' package made it work again.
Alex.
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
A Dilluns 30 Gener 2006 22:10, Alex Hermann va escriure:
> On Monday 23 January 2006 12:04, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to have
> > kde 3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical windows
> > asking you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and really,
> > after googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
> >
> > And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
> > windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
>
> I had the same problem. It seems that 'usbmount' is capturing the plugging
> events somehow. Purging the 'usbmount' package made it work again.
Noopppps
It doesn't work.. It begins to be very irritating issue ......
Regards,
Leo
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Re: Problems with hal, devices and udev
Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> A Dilluns 30 Gener 2006 22:10, Alex Hermann va escriure:
>> On Monday 23 January 2006 12:04, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have two boxes with a mix version of etch and sid. I would like to
>> > have kde 3.5 and the feature to plug a pen drive and appears a magical
>> > windows asking you what do want to do. However, I have two problems and
>> > really, after googling some time, I don't have any idea to solve it.
>> >
>> > And second, I can plug a device, it appears in syslog, etc, but no
>> > windows appears. What I'm doing wrong?
>>
>> I had the same problem. It seems that 'usbmount' is capturing the
>> plugging events somehow. Purging the 'usbmount' package made it work
>> again.
>
> Noopppps
>
> It doesn't work.. It begins to be very irritating issue ......
Well Alex is on the right track - you definitely don't want usbmount. It's
an older way to do the job. Hal and udev should be enough.
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