Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition - Debian

This is a discussion on Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition - Debian ; I think I know what the response will be but I will ask the question anyway. I am currently running KDE 3.3.2 using Debian unstable and a hand rolled 2.6.10 kernel. I need to update my kernel to include a ...

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  1. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    I think I know what the response will be but I will ask the question anyway.
    I am currently running KDE 3.3.2 using Debian unstable and a hand rolled
    2.6.10 kernel. I need to update my kernel to include a missing switch. When
    I started by trying to download the 2.6.11 kernel source and ran into a
    conflict since the kernel-source package generates a libqt3-mt-dev
    dependency. This dependency "breaks" KDE since libqt3-mt-dev depends on
    libqt3-mt. (Note: the dev packages all broke when you started the upgrade so
    they got removed from my machine before I fully understood path the kde
    transition was taking.) I can download and install the kernel-source package
    manually (using dselect makes a recommended dependency a requirement) but can
    not do a make xconfig. I can do a make menuconfig but doing this makes
    configuring the kernel difficult. Is there a work around that would allow me
    to load the libqt3-mt-dev libraries (or equivalent) so I avoid the headache
    of reverting back to make menuconfig?


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  2. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    Keith Schweikhard wrote:
    > I think I know what the response will be but I will ask the question anyway.
    > I am currently running KDE 3.3.2 using Debian unstable and a hand rolled
    > 2.6.10 kernel. I need to update my kernel to include a missing switch. When
    > I started by trying to download the 2.6.11 kernel source and ran into a
    > conflict since the kernel-source package generates a libqt3-mt-dev
    > dependency.

    seems odd to me: kernel depends on qt?
    has never been that way here...

    > configuring the kernel difficult. Is there a work around that would allow me
    > to load the libqt3-mt-dev libraries (or equivalent) so I avoid the headache
    > of reverting back to make menuconfig?

    make oldconfig

    Eduard


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  3. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    On Saturday 20 August 2005 09:36, Anna Über wrote:
    > Keith Schweikhard wrote:
    > seems odd to me: kernel depends on qt?
    > has never been that way here...


    The Kernel _SUGGESTS_ libqt3-mt-dev, but it doesn't need it as long as you
    don't use the qt-interface for configuring it. I prefer the menuconfig
    anyway.

    BTW, 2.6.12 is already in sid, but it isn't called kernel-source-2.6.12 but
    linux-source-2.6.12.

    Regards
    Roman

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  4. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    * Keith Schweikhard [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:38:19 -0700]:

    > I think I know what the response will be but I will ask the question anyway.
    > I am currently running KDE 3.3.2 using Debian unstable and a hand rolled
    > 2.6.10 kernel. I need to update my kernel to include a missing switch. When
    > I started by trying to download the 2.6.11 kernel source and ran into a
    > conflict since the kernel-source package generates a libqt3-mt-dev
    > dependency. This dependency "breaks" KDE since libqt3-mt-dev depends on
    > libqt3-mt. (Note: the dev packages all broke when you started the upgrade so
    > they got removed from my machine before I fully understood path the kde
    > transition was taking.) I can download and install the kernel-source package
    > manually (using dselect makes a recommended dependency a requirement) but can
    > not do a make xconfig. I can do a make menuconfig but doing this makes
    > configuring the kernel difficult. Is there a work around that would allow me
    > to load the libqt3-mt-dev libraries (or equivalent) so I avoid the headache
    > of reverting back to make menuconfig?


    Yes. Install libqt3-mt-dev and its dependencies from the testing
    distribution.

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  5. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 10:38:19PM -0700, Keith Schweikhard wrote:
    > Is there a work around that would allow me to load the libqt3-mt-dev
    > libraries (or equivalent) so I avoid the headache of reverting back
    > to make menuconfig?


    Compile your packages/kernels in pbuilder[1] or a clean chroot[2]. Compiling
    binaries in your desktop enviroiment can lead to suprising problems,
    especially if you have non-debian[3] software installed.

    Cheers,
    Riku

    [1] sudo apt-get install pbuilder
    [2] debootstrap sarge /var/chroot/sarge/ http://ftp.$locale.debian.org/debian
    ...
    chroot /var/chroot/sarge/
    [3] Anything from software installed with make install to having unnofficial
    locations in sources.list



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  6. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    Hallo,

    - Add 'deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ testing main non-free
    contrib' to your sources.list.

    - 'apt-get install -t testing kde'

    Regards,

    Serge

    On Monday 22 August 2005 17:42, Alan Ezust wrote:
    > I just tried to install a package which caused the removal of all my
    > KDE packages. I thought it would be possible to get KDE back again,
    > but it seems I am unable to install kdebase anymore.
    >
    > So then I tried to install kde from source using konstruct.
    >
    > make[2]: Entering directory

    `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    > --08:01:25--

    ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4...-2.1.21.tar.gz
    > => `download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz'
    > Resolving ftp.kde.org... 131.220.60.97
    > Connecting to ftp.kde.org|131.220.60.97|:21... connected.
    > Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
    > ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
    > ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/src ... done.
    > ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz ...
    > No such file `cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz'.
    >
    > make[2]: ***

    [ftp//ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/src/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz]
    > Error 1
    > make[2]: Leaving directory

    `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    > *** GAR GAR GAR! Failed to download
    > download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz! GAR GAR GAR! ***
    > make[1]: *** [download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz] Error 1
    > make[1]: Leaving directory

    `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    > make: *** [dep-../../libs/cyrus-sasl] Error 2
    > [ezust@lazarus] /home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/kde/kdebase> firefox &
    > [1] 28234
    > [ezust@lazarus] /home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/kde/kdebase>
    >
    > What is the easiest way of getting kde back on my debian system? I've
    > never switched by apt-system DOWN to testing - is that even possible?
    >



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  7. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    I just tried to install a package which caused the removal of all my
    KDE packages. I thought it would be possible to get KDE back again,
    but it seems I am unable to install kdebase anymore.

    So then I tried to install kde from source using konstruct.

    make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    --08:01:25-- ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4...-2.1.21.tar.gz
    => `download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz'
    Resolving ftp.kde.org... 131.220.60.97
    Connecting to ftp.kde.org|131.220.60.97|:21... connected.
    Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
    ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done.
    ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/src ... done.
    ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz ...
    No such file `cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz'.

    make[2]: *** [ftp//ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/src/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz]
    Error 1
    make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    *** GAR GAR GAR! Failed to download
    download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz! GAR GAR GAR! ***
    make[1]: *** [download/cyrus-sasl-2.1.21.tar.gz] Error 1
    make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/libs/cyrus-sasl'
    make: *** [dep-../../libs/cyrus-sasl] Error 2
    [ezust@lazarus] /home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/kde/kdebase> firefox &
    [1] 28234
    [ezust@lazarus] /home/ezust/workspace/konstruct/kde/kdebase>

    What is the easiest way of getting kde back on my debian system? I've
    never switched by apt-system DOWN to testing - is that even possible?

  8. Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

    On Monday 22 August 2005 17:42, Alan Ezust wrote:
    > What is the easiest way of getting kde back on my debian system? I've
    > never switched by apt-system DOWN to testing - is that even possible?


    Get KDE from testing. Perhaps even revert back to testing for all your
    packages for the time being.

    Anders

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