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  1. Lack of updates lately?

    Hello,

    Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    itself) and unstable setups.

    Currently, testing shows (as of 7/23/2007 3 PM PDT):
    Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
    kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
    kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
    krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
    libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
    libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
    libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
    librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
    libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
    python-gobject python-pyogg
    python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded.

    These packages were pretty much the same for almost a week or so. Thank
    you in advance.
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  2. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    In alt.os.linux.debian on Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:38:52 -0500, Ant
    wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > itself) and unstable setups.


    How is this a problem?

    There may a lack of new upstream releases or known bugs. Or the
    package maintainers may be busy. Or the packages you don't use may be
    the ones that are being updated twice a day.

    You certainly don't have a configuration problem, since I'm getting
    the same results on a mixed testing/unstable/experimental box.
    Personally, I'm enjoying the peace and quiet. :-)

    --
    PJR :-)

  3. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    On 2007-07-24, Ant wrote:

    > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > itself) and unstable setups.
    >
    > Currently, testing shows (as of 7/23/2007 3 PM PDT):
    > Done
    > Building dependency tree
    > Reading state information... Done
    > The following packages have been kept back:
    > compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
    > kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
    > kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
    > krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
    > libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
    > libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
    > libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
    > librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
    > libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
    > python-gobject python-pyogg
    > python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
    > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded.


    Hello Ant,

    enjoy the silence or type

    apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

    Bye Michael

  4. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    Peter J Ross wrote:
    > In alt.os.linux.debian on Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:38:52 -0500, Ant
    > wrote:


    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > > itself) and unstable setups.


    > How is this a problem?


    > There may a lack of new upstream releases or known bugs. Or the
    > package maintainers may be busy. Or the packages you don't use may be
    > the ones that are being updated twice a day.


    > You certainly don't have a configuration problem, since I'm getting
    > the same results on a mixed testing/unstable/experimental box.
    > Personally, I'm enjoying the peace and quiet. :-)


    OK good. I don't mind a break if there are no updates. I thought
    something broke on my box!!
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  5. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    > > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > > itself) and unstable setups.
    > >
    > > Currently, testing shows (as of 7/23/2007 3 PM PDT):
    > > Done
    > > Building dependency tree
    > > Reading state information... Done
    > > The following packages have been kept back:
    > > compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
    > > kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
    > > kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
    > > krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
    > > libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
    > > libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
    > > libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
    > > librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
    > > libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
    > > python-gobject python-pyogg
    > > python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
    > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded.


    > Hello Ant,


    > enjoy the silence or type


    > apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade


    I am not doing that dist-upgrade yet because of the Kernel upgrade,
    reboot requirement, and lack of disk space for 2.6.21 (will deal with it
    later when I need this version and have free time to fix it):

    Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    /dev/hda1 270969 228373 28140 90% /

    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    linux-kernel-headers modutils
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 linux-libc-dev
    The following packages will be upgraded:
    compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
    kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
    kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
    krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
    libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
    libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
    libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
    librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
    libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
    python-gobject python-pyogg
    python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
    50 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 63.4MB of archives.
    After unpacking 44.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n

    Plus, I don't think this is a good idea:
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    linux-kernel-headers modutils

    Don't I need those? As the other guy said, he noticed quietness too. I
    thought my box was broken or something.
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  6. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    I demand that Ant may or may not have written...

    [snip]
    > The following packages will be REMOVED:
    > linux-kernel-headers modutils
    > The following NEW packages will be installed:
    > linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 linux-libc-dev

    [snip]
    > Plus, I don't think this is a good idea:
    > The following packages will be REMOVED:
    > linux-kernel-headers modutils


    > Don't I need those? As the other guy said, he noticed quietness too. I
    > thought my box was broken or something.


    Not a problem.

    linux-kernel-headers will be replaced with linux-libc-dev, and you'll already
    have module-init-tools, so no problem with modutils disappearing (and anyway
    it isn't useful with 2.6-series kernels).

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  7. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    > > The following packages will be REMOVED:
    > > linux-kernel-headers modutils
    > > The following NEW packages will be installed:
    > > linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 linux-libc-dev

    > [snip]
    > > Plus, I don't think this is a good idea:
    > > The following packages will be REMOVED:
    > > linux-kernel-headers modutils


    > > Don't I need those? As the other guy said, he noticed quietness too. I
    > > thought my box was broken or something.


    > Not a problem.


    > linux-kernel-headers will be replaced with linux-libc-dev, and you'll already
    > have module-init-tools, so no problem with modutils disappearing (and anyway
    > it isn't useful with 2.6-series kernels).


    Cool! I always have a hard time to know if it is safe to remove or not.
    I removed those two and others were installed:

    # apt-get remove linux-kernel-headers modutils
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following extra packages will be installed:
    libc6 libc6-dev linux-libc-dev
    Suggested packages:
    locales glibc-doc
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    linux-kernel-headers modutils
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    linux-libc-dev
    The following packages will be upgraded:
    libc6 libc6-dev
    2 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 48 not upgraded.
    Need to get 8413kB of archives.
    After unpacking 7913kB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
    Get:1 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main linux-libc-dev 2.6.21-6
    [686kB]
    Get:2 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main libc6-dev 2.6-2 [3314kB]
    Get:3 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main libc6 2.6-2 [4413kB]
    Fetched 8413kB in 13s (645kB/s)
    dpkg: linux-kernel-headers: dependency problems, but removing anyway as
    you request:
    libc6-dev depends on linux-libc-dev | linux-kernel-headers; however:
    Package linux-libc-dev is not installed.
    Package linux-kernel-headers is to be removed.
    (Reading database ... 148726 files and directories currently installed.)
    Removing linux-kernel-headers ...
    Selecting previously deselected package linux-libc-dev.
    (Reading database ... 147002 files and directories currently installed.)
    Unpacking linux-libc-dev (from .../linux-libc-dev_2.6.21-6_i386.deb) ...
    Preparing to replace libc6-dev 2.5-11 (using
    ..../libc6-dev_2.6-2_i386.deb) ...
    Unpacking replacement libc6-dev ...
    Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-11 (using
    ..../archives/libc6_2.6-2_i386.deb) ...
    Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
    Setting up libc6 (2.6-2) ...
    Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/glibc.sh ...

    (Reading database ... 147677 files and directories currently installed.)
    Removing modutils ...
    Setting up linux-libc-dev (2.6.21-6) ...
    Setting up libc6-dev (2.6-2) ...

    And now I can do a regular upgrade:
    # apt-get upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    linux-image-2.6-k7
    The following packages will be upgraded:
    compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
    kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
    kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
    krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
    libaudio-dev libaudio2 libdecoration0 libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev
    libgcc1 libgimp2.0 libgsf-1-114
    liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev librss1 libsasl2-2
    libsasl2-modules libstdc++6
    module-init-tools multitail python-cairo python-gobject python-pyogg
    python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest
    xserver-xorg-core
    47 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    Need to get 37.1MB of archives.
    After unpacking 463kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

    I also removed linux-image-2.6-k7 package. Thank you.
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  8. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    Ant wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > itself) and unstable setups.
    >

    It's you. I've lost track of how many megabytes Sid has wanted recently,
    and it's 66 MB tonight. That's not counting the ones that want to remove
    Gnome or most of KDE, which I have currently declined to do. And Pan is
    broken. BIG upheavals in Sid.

  9. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    Ant wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    > apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    > itself) and unstable setups.


    If you are using ftp.debian.org as your apt source - this mirror is
    currently broken (ran out of disc space afaik), and wasn't updated since
    18/07/2007

    You can find other mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

  10. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    On 7/27/2007 4:59 AM PT, Black Dew typed:

    >> Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
    >> apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
    >> itself) and unstable setups.

    >
    > If you are using ftp.debian.org as your apt source - this mirror is
    > currently broken (ran out of disc space afaik), and wasn't updated since
    > 18/07/2007
    >
    > You can find other mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list


    $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
    deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
    deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
    deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-proposed-updates main non-free
    contrib
    deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-proposed-updates main
    non-free contrib
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
    deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib

    Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?
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    would be nothing but bone in a matter of seconds. If you're not up to
    that, just imagine putting your hand in a jar of them. It would have to
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  11. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    Ant :
    > On 7/27/2007 4:59 AM PT, Black Dew typed:
    > >
    > > You can find other mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

    >
    > $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
    > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
    > [snip]
    > Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?


    What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
    another mirror.

    You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
    could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
    new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
    be.


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  12. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    On 7/27/2007 9:27 AM PT, s. keeling typed:

    > Ant :
    >> On 7/27/2007 4:59 AM PT, Black Dew typed:
    >>> You can find other mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

    >> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
    >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
    >> [snip]
    >> Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?

    >
    > What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
    > another mirror.
    >
    > You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
    > could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
    > new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
    > be.


    Isn't ftp.debian.org a main site that mirrors based on? Wouldn't they
    fix their disk space shortage right away?
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  13. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    On Jul 28, 10:42 am, Ant wrote:
    > On 7/27/2007 9:27 AM PT, s. keeling typed:
    >
    > > Ant :
    > >> On 7/27/2007 4:59 AM PT, Black Dew typed:
    > >>> You can find other mirrors athttp://www.debian.org/mirror/list
    > >> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
    > >> debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/proposed-updates main non-free contrib
    > >> [snip]
    > >> Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?

    >
    > > What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
    > > another mirror.

    >
    > > You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
    > > could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
    > > new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
    > > be.

    >
    > Isn't ftp.debian.org a main site that mirrors based on? Wouldn't they
    > fix their disk space shortage right away?



    What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
    another mirror.

    You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
    could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
    new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
    be.

    (I'm sorry s.keeling for stealing your answer and Ant, I couldn't
    resist. Sorry all)

    Good luck


  14. Re: Lack of updates lately?

    "AJackson" schreef in bericht
    news:1185619009.118651.69040@l70g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
    > On Jul 28, 10:42 am, Ant wrote:
    >> >>> You can find other mirrors athttp://www.debian.org/mirror/list
    >> >> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
    >> >> debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/proposed-updates main non-free
    >> >> contrib
    >> >> [snip]
    >> >> Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?
    >> > What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
    >> > another mirror.

    >> Isn't ftp.debian.org a main site that mirrors based on? Wouldn't they
    >> fix their disk space shortage right away?

    >
    > What a silly question.

    A question never is silly, it may seem so for those knowing the answer.

    > He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick another mirror.

    Given his expressed assumption any mirror will be broken while the origional
    is, this answer in turn may seem silly to the OP.

    Given common security practise NONE of the mirrors exposed to the public is
    likely be the master.
    http://www.debian.org/doc/developers...html#s-mirrors
    seems to validate my assumption.

    HansH
    --
    Is nothing what it seems to be?



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