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  1. Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !


    I have my XP Pro SP2 desktop networked to a XP Pro SP2 laptop using
    wireless through a Linksys Wireless Router.

    This has been working OK until today , when , on trying to access the
    desktop from the laptop , I get a Password request page entitled
    "Connect to dtop" and which has two lines entitled "Username" and
    "Password"

    The "Username" is greyed out with the words "DTOP\Guest" also greyed
    out.

    The "Password" line is blank.

    As this is a home LAN and I am the sole user , I have not used any
    passwords anywhere and this is the first time I have had such a
    request.

    There is no such request when I attempt to access the laptop from the
    Desktop and all shared files on the laptop are visible on the Desktop.

    I can ping both laptop and desktop from each other.

    Why am I suddenly having this password request appear in this
    otherwise perfectly working LAN and , since I am obviously the
    Administrator here , how do I gain access to the Desktop from the
    laptop ?

    B.N.

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  2. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !

    Hi,

    Hope I'm not to late. I just suscribed.

    You could try two solutions :

    1) create a second user on your destop with username and password. Change
    for this account. Then try to enter these two entries when asked on the
    laptop. I'm not sure it'couln't wok if you connect on your main account
    (the one without password). .There is no risk to try out.

    2) If this doesn't work or if you want to access to the desktop on the
    main account, you could verify if the os intallation had'nt been done asa
    server on the desktop and change it for a stand alone mode. Unfortunately,
    I don't remenber where to change it in the system parameters.

    The second solution is more elegant and versatile.

    Let me know if one or both solutions work or if you need further
    indications for point 2.

    Salute from France

    Georges

    On Thu, 04 May 2006 17:57:53 +0200, wrote:

    >
    > I have my XP Pro SP2 desktop networked to a XP Pro SP2 laptop using
    > wireless through a Linksys Wireless Router.
    >
    > This has been working OK until today , when , on trying to access the
    > desktop from the laptop , I get a Password request page entitled
    > "Connect to dtop" and which has two lines entitled "Username" and
    > "Password"
    >
    > The "Username" is greyed out with the words "DTOP\Guest" also greyed
    > out.
    >
    > The "Password" line is blank.
    >
    > As this is a home LAN and I am the sole user , I have not used any
    > passwords anywhere and this is the first time I have had such a
    > request.
    >
    > There is no such request when I attempt to access the laptop from the
    > Desktop and all shared files on the laptop are visible on the Desktop.
    >
    > I can ping both laptop and desktop from each other.
    >
    > Why am I suddenly having this password request appear in this
    > otherwise perfectly working LAN and , since I am obviously the
    > Administrator here , how do I gain access to the Desktop from the
    > laptop ?
    >
    > B.N.
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  3. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !

    On Fri, 19 May 2006 07:49:40 +0200, georges
    wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >Hope I'm not to late. I just suscribed.


    >>You could try two solutions :

    >
    >1) create a second user on your destop with username and password. Change
    >for this account. Then try to enter these two entries when asked on the
    >laptop. I'm not sure it'couln't wok if you connect on your main account
    >(the one without password). .There is no risk to try out.
    >
    >2) If this doesn't work or if you want to access to the desktop on the
    >main account, you could verify if the os intallation had'nt been done as a
    >server on the desktop and change it for a stand alone mode. Unfortunately,
    >I don't remenber where to change it in the system parameters.
    >
    >The second solution is more elegant and versatile.
    >
    >Let me know if one or both solutions work or if you need further
    >indications for point 2.
    >
    >Salute from France
    >
    >Georges


    Et salut d'Irelande a vous Georges at merci bien pour votre repondre .

    Unfortunately I now have to continue in English as that was almost the
    limit of my French !

    I'll try your two suggestions although I'm not too sure if I
    understand all of the second one .

    I'll post back later with observations

    a bientot.

    B.N.
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  4. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !

    Hi B.N.

    I certainly was too quick and unprecise in my 2nd point. Let me try again.
    Your problem: when you try to access to your desktop, you're not autorised
    because Windows claims for a username and password to establish a link
    between two networked pc's. I think it's a security function on the last
    windows 2000 and xp). That's why my first point was about creating this
    2nd account (be sure to enter the exact words when ask on the portable
    because it's case sensitive).

    Let's talk about the 2nd point : like I was saying, I don't remember where
    to set the parameter. But one of my friend, who is a communication
    engineer managed to fix it, after searching a while. So I have to ask to
    him. Here is what he explained to me : If your dektop wher once upon a
    time connected to a company network (for example to transfer some files or
    to install some programs remotely), when you try to access from the
    laptop, it doesn't success because the desktop "considers" it has to be
    linked to this corporate network to which it was once connected. That what
    happened to me as I asked a technician to intall a linux distro that I
    deleted further. Maybe you never had been in this case but the parameter
    correponding to "connexion to a server", may be simply set on. I have to
    send mail to him to ask if he remembers where is the entry.

    If this second solution works, you won't need this second account you
    create following my point 1 and can delete it.

    Let me know about solution 1 and we'll try further.

    A bientôt and thank you for these french words, I appreciate.

    Georges

    On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:06:53 +0200, wrote:

    > On Fri, 19 May 2006 07:49:40 +0200, georges
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> Hope I'm not to late. I just suscribed.

    >
    >>> You could try two solutions :

    >>
    >> 1) create a second user on your destop with username and password.
    >> Change
    >> for this account. Then try to enter these two entries when asked on the
    >> laptop. I'm not sure it'couln't wok if you connect on your main account
    >> (the one without password). .There is no risk to try out.
    >>
    >> 2) If this doesn't work or if you want to access to the desktop on the
    >> main account, you could verify if the os intallation had'nt been done
    >> as a
    >> server on the desktop and change it for a stand alone mode.
    >> Unfortunately,
    >> I don't remenber where to change it in the system parameters.
    >>
    >> The second solution is more elegant and versatile.
    >>
    >> Let me know if one or both solutions work or if you need further
    >> indications for point 2.
    >>
    >> Salute from France
    >>
    >> Georges

    >
    > Et salut d'Irelande a vous Georges at merci bien pour votre repondre .
    >
    > Unfortunately I now have to continue in English as that was almost the
    > limit of my French !
    >
    > I'll try your two suggestions although I'm not too sure if I
    > understand all of the second one .
    >
    > I'll post back later with observations
    >
    > a bientot.
    >
    > B.N.
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  5. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !


    >Let's talk about the 2nd point : like I was saying, I don't remember where
    >to set the parameter. But one of my friend, who is a communication
    >engineer managed to fix it, after searching a while. So I have to ask to
    >him. Here is what he explained to me : If your dektop wher once upon a
    >time connected to a company network (for example to transfer some files or
    >to install some programs remotely), when you try to access from the
    >laptop, it doesn't success because the desktop "considers" it has to be
    >linked to this corporate network to which it was once connected.


    I don't think this applies to my case.

    I have a simple LAN in which I originally networked my desktop , my
    laptop and another older PC . All these machines are here at home and
    I do not have any requirement to link any of these machines outside of
    my house to any other business - I am retired and only use these
    machines for personal use.

    The setup was that the desktop was linked to the Web through a DSL
    broadband modem and through a Linksys Wireless router. The old pc is
    wirelessly linked to the router using a wireless network card and the
    laptop to the router via a wireless card also.

    The desktop and the laptop have XP Pro SP2 and the old pc has W2K SP4.

    Initially I had the same problem when I tried to access the desktop
    from the W2K pc - it asked me for a username and password but this was
    resolved by entering the data required.

    At that time there was no such request from the laptop when I tried
    accessing the desktop from it and it connected without the need to
    enter any passwords.

    I'm not exactly sure of the sequence of events which occurred next but
    there was a problem with the desktop which necessitated a
    re-installation of a previously recorded image file of the C drive due
    to a XP "hang" ( this was unconnected with the above problems )

    After the re-installation of the C drive , when next I tried to
    connect from the laptop to the desktop , I now got the request for a
    user name and Guest password - although all this may be totally
    unconnected to the re-installation of the C drive .

    Why the laptop is now referring to the Guest account in the Username
    dialogue box is also puzzling ( the words ""DTOP\Guest" are greyed out
    ) .
    In both the desktop and laptop the Guest Accounts are both switched
    OFF.

    B.N.

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  6. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !

    Hi B.N.


    Sorry to not have answered immediately, I was'nt home these past 3 days
    and for my return, I get some problems with my newly installed opera
    navigator (the newsgroup modle dosn't work so well) plus some problems
    to get my provider account running.

    So let us forget about my point 2. Obviously, you are not concerned. By
    the way, I realise we've quite the same equipment, as I own a Gateway
    desktop (windows XP SP2), a Sony Vaio laptop (XP SP2), an old IBM Aptiva
    400 mhz (w2k sp4) plus a mac laptop (mac os tiger).

    My router is a d-link wireless di-624 (54 mhz)

    The adsl set is a french one (Sagem)

    All the devices, including a network all-in-one HP printer are connected
    are connected to the router (ethernet cables for the gateway, the mac
    and the printer, wireless for the sony laptop).

    I ask to my friend and he said to me the routers build and keep a route
    table which is the memory of the connections detected once. So,
    apparently, you have to delete the ones that are not running (on each
    machine).

    1) But before doing this, as you did'nt say if you tried to connect
    under a new account, try doing it. There is no danger, as you can simply
    change at will, as i there where differen users for a specified machine,
    so you could verify if you can connect entering the right usernames and
    password instéed to have greyed ones.

    If this don't work, you have to verify if there is a shared file on the
    target machine, for example the documents file (you must see a n open
    hand under the icon) on the dektop if you want to reach it from the
    laptop. If there is'nt you must go to properites with a right clic and
    select "share this file". Also, you must have created or recreated, if
    ther is'nt a workgoup named "workgroup" or any name, as the
    re-installation of C: may have nulled the remote settings.

    Then try 1) again.

    2) resetting the router

    Before going further, you'll have to switch off or unplug the router let
    say for about 10 seconds to delete the route table i was talking about,
    so it is able to establish a new one.

    Talking about deleting the network connexions on the laptop for example,
    means the DHCP run by the router will establish a new one. DHCP means
    the attribution of ip adresses to each of your computers on a network.
    I did'nt understand if you're able to see the laptop from the desktop,
    so, you could keep this connexion an the desktop.

    I suppose the network connexion on the router is set by DHCP, as it is
    choosen by default. To verify it, you have to acces to the router
    interface, generally by typing directly it's ip adress in the url field
    of any navigator.

    If this don't work I suggest you seek for a local assistance, somebody
    like a computing student in your neighbourhood, you can give some euros,
    sorry some pounds to set your system at home. Its generally loger than
    expected, but he or she can give you some useful advices.

    Anyway, i'd like to know if you succeed. I'm not a specialist but like
    to help, as I always has been by others.

    Give me news if you manage to get some results.

    Your's

    Georges








    admiral_victory@iol.ie a écrit :
    >> Let's talk about the 2nd point : like I was saying, I don't remember where
    >> to set the parameter. But one of my friend, who is a communication
    >> engineer managed to fix it, after searching a while. So I have to ask to
    >> him. Here is what he explained to me : If your dektop wher once upon a
    >> time connected to a company network (for example to transfer some files or
    >> to install some programs remotely), when you try to access from the
    >> laptop, it doesn't success because the desktop "considers" it has to be
    >> linked to this corporate network to which it was once connected.

    >
    > I don't think this applies to my case.
    >
    > I have a simple LAN in which I originally networked my desktop , my
    > laptop and another older PC . All these machines are here at home and
    > I do not have any requirement to link any of these machines outside of
    > my house to any other business - I am retired and only use these
    > machines for personal use.
    >
    > The setup was that the desktop was linked to the Web through a DSL
    > broadband modem and through a Linksys Wireless router. The old pc is
    > wirelessly linked to the router using a wireless network card and the
    > laptop to the router via a wireless card also.
    >
    > The desktop and the laptop have XP Pro SP2 and the old pc has W2K SP4.
    >
    > Initially I had the same problem when I tried to access the desktop
    > from the W2K pc - it asked me for a username and password but this was
    > resolved by entering the data required.
    >
    > At that time there was no such request from the laptop when I tried
    > accessing the desktop from it and it connected without the need to
    > enter any passwords.
    >
    > I'm not exactly sure of the sequence of events which occurred next but
    > there was a problem with the desktop which necessitated a
    > re-installation of a previously recorded image file of the C drive due
    > to a XP "hang" ( this was unconnected with the above problems )
    >
    > After the re-installation of the C drive , when next I tried to
    > connect from the laptop to the desktop , I now got the request for a
    > user name and Guest password - although all this may be totally
    > unconnected to the re-installation of the C drive .
    >
    > Why the laptop is now referring to the Guest account in the Username
    > dialogue box is also puzzling ( the words ""DTOP\Guest" are greyed out
    > ) .
    > In both the desktop and laptop the Guest Accounts are both switched
    > OFF.
    >
    > B.N.
    >
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  7. Re: Home Network PC Asking for Password when it didn't before !

    Thanks for the detailed reply Georges.
    >
    >So let us forget about my point 2.


    O.K.
    >
    >I ask to my friend and he said to me the routers build and keep a route
    >table which is the memory of the connections detected once. So,
    >apparently, you have to delete the ones that are not running (on each
    >machine).


    I did not know that before.
    >
    >1) But before doing this, as you did'nt say if you tried to connect
    >under a new account, try doing it. There is no danger, as you can simply
    >change at will, as i there where differen users for a specified machine,
    >so you could verify if you can connect entering the right usernames and
    >password instéed to have greyed ones.


    I'm not sure whether I know how to do that but will try and post back
    any result.
    >
    >If this don't work, you have to verify if there is a shared file on the
    >target machine, for example the documents file (you must see a n open
    >hand under the icon) on the dektop if you want to reach it from the
    >laptop. If there is'nt you must go to properites with a right clic and
    >select "share this file". Also, you must have created or recreated, if
    >ther is'nt a workgoup named "workgroup" or any name, as the
    >re-installation of C: may have nulled the remote settings.


    I'll wait until I try 1] before I attempt the above.

    I am doing to be away from the PC for about 10 days but will post back
    here on my return.

    Thanks again for the help.

    B.N.
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