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  1. Unable to work my network

    Hi I've three machines on a lan via a Netgear DG814 router. This runs
    XPpro, another XPhome and the one I really want to connect to at the
    moment runs W98se with an Epson 440 printer. I want to use the printer
    butI can't get this one to see the others after all my efforts and
    struggling through the help files/wizards.

    Each actions the net fine but wont see each other.
    I'm obviously missing something.
    The network icon says it's connected but how/what do I do from here?
    Many thanks in advance.
    Jim

  2. Re: Unable to work my network


    "J L Williams" wrote in message
    news:2004071823502675767@zetnet.co.uk...
    > Hi I've three machines on a lan via a Netgear DG814 router. This runs
    > XPpro, another XPhome and the one I really want to connect to at the
    > moment runs W98se with an Epson 440 printer. I want to use the printer
    > butI can't get this one to see the others after all my efforts and
    > struggling through the help files/wizards.
    >
    > Each actions the net fine but wont see each other.
    > I'm obviously missing something.
    > The network icon says it's connected but how/what do I do from here?
    > Many thanks in advance.
    > Jim


    Hi Jim,
    That's a pretty broad topic, so here's a bunch a tutorials that will get
    you started:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

    Then you can come back if you have a specific question.


    (`._. rr ._.)




  3. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <10fm3ni29bh6v6b@corp.supernews.com>
    from "Larry" contains these words:

    > > The network icon says it's connected but how/what do I do from here?
    > > Many thanks in advance.
    > > Jim


    > Hi Jim,
    > That's a pretty broad topic, so here's a bunch a tutorials that will get
    > you started:
    > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search


    > Then you can come back if you have a specific question.


    Thanks Larry for those but I'm now boggle eyed and no further forth.
    I've connected all three to the Netgear router. They all access the 'net
    individually fine.
    I ran the networking wizard on this XPpro machine. It says that the LAN
    or high speed internet is Enabled> Device name :Linksys LNE 100TX Fast
    Ethernet Adapter (LNE 100tx) v4 #2

    It made a floppy for the others, so I ran that floppy in the W98se
    machine which has the printer attached that I want to acess This is (I
    assume) a new network not adding to an existing one as defined and
    referred to in the tutorials listed above (they say don't use this
    floppy in the latter instance)

    On this (XPpro) machine:-
    It says the Connection Status is 'connected'
    In properties it has all the right bits showing like client for MS
    networks, file and printer sharing etc. Show icon in notification area
    ----which it is.

    Switching on the W98SE and clicking network neighbour gets me the torch
    looking for something.
    There I'm lost and the tutorials are not helpful. I just don't know
    where to go from there. My W98 book Simplified doesn't cover this bit.
    Cheers
    Jim



    > (`._. rr ._.)


  4. Re: Unable to work my network

    J L Williams wrote:
    > The message <10fm3ni29bh6v6b@corp.supernews.com>
    > from "Larry" contains these words:
    >
    >
    >>>The network icon says it's connected but how/what do I do from here?
    >>>Many thanks in advance.
    >>>Jim

    >
    >
    >>Hi Jim,
    >> That's a pretty broad topic, so here's a bunch a tutorials that will get
    >>you started:
    >>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

    >
    >
    >>Then you can come back if you have a specific question.

    >
    >
    > Thanks Larry for those but I'm now boggle eyed and no further forth.
    > I've connected all three to the Netgear router. They all access the 'net
    > individually fine.
    > I ran the networking wizard on this XPpro machine. It says that the LAN
    > or high speed internet is Enabled> Device name :Linksys LNE 100TX Fast
    > Ethernet Adapter (LNE 100tx) v4 #2
    >
    > It made a floppy for the others, so I ran that floppy in the W98se
    > machine which has the printer attached that I want to acess This is (I
    > assume) a new network not adding to an existing one as defined and
    > referred to in the tutorials listed above (they say don't use this
    > floppy in the latter instance)
    >
    > On this (XPpro) machine:-
    > It says the Connection Status is 'connected'
    > In properties it has all the right bits showing like client for MS
    > networks, file and printer sharing etc. Show icon in notification area
    > ----which it is.
    >
    > Switching on the W98SE and clicking network neighbour gets me the torch
    > looking for something.
    > There I'm lost and the tutorials are not helpful. I just don't know
    > where to go from there. My W98 book Simplified doesn't cover this bit.
    > Cheers
    > Jim
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >>(`._. rr ._.)

    I'll take a quick stab ...

    A few quick things to check:

    Make sure the Workgroup name is the same on all three machines.
    Make sure you have at least one folder shared on each machine.
    Make sure you have shared the printer on the Win98 machine.
    Report back.

  5. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <40fbd162$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>
    from RonS contains these words:

    > > On this (XPpro) machine:-
    > > It says the Connection Status is 'connected'
    > > In properties it has all the right bits showing like client for MS
    > > networks, file and printer sharing etc. Show icon in notification area
    > > ----which it is.
    > >
    > > Switching on the W98SE and clicking network neighbour gets me the torch
    > > looking for something.
    > > There I'm lost and the tutorials are not helpful. I just don't know
    > > where to go from there. My W98 book Simplified doesn't cover this bit.
    > > Cheers
    > > Jim


    > >>(`._. rr ._.)

    > I'll take a quick stab ...


    > A few quick things to check:


    > Make sure the Workgroup name is the same on all three machines.


    Yup, MSHOME

    > Make sure you have at least one folder shared on each machine.


    Yep, shared

    > Make sure you have shared the printer on the Win98 machine.


    Yes, shared with no password specified, cus we don't want one. I presume
    that's ok?

    > Report back.


    Thanks
    Jim
    PS Have only bothered with these two machines, will add the third when
    these work, if ever

  6. Re: Unable to work my network

    OK

    Go to a command prompt on each machine and type the command 'ipconfig' (without
    quotes ... if it doesn't work try 'winipcfg'). This will tell you the IP address
    of the machine.

    Go to another machine and from a command prompt type the command 'ping
    VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ' where VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ is the address you got from the other
    machine. This will let you know if this machine can see the other machine on the
    network.

    Report back.

  7. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <40fd6abf$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>
    from RonS contains these words:

    Thanks for coming back to help Much appreciated.

    > OK


    > Go to a command prompt on each machine and type the command 'ipconfig'
    > (without
    > quotes ... if it doesn't work try 'winipcfg'). This will tell you the
    > IP address
    > of the machine.


    From XPpro machine called JIMS
    C:\>ipconfig
    (request from zone alarm on this machine to access the net....answered yes)

    Windows IP Configuration:
    Connectio-specific DNS Suffix . :
    IP Adress...........................................: 192.168.0.3
    Subnet Mask.....................................: 255.255.255.0
    IP Address.........................................: fe80: :
    204:5aff:fe5f:3dcd%4
    Default Gateway...............................: 192.168.0.1
    Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interfeace:
    Connection specific DNS Suffix....:
    IP Adress............................................ ..:
    3ffe:831f:4004:1956:07cf6:aefd:a90f
    IP Adress............................................ ...: fe80: :
    5445:5245:444f%5
    Default Gateway...................................: : :

    Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
    Connection -Specific DNS Suffix . :
    IP Adress............................................ ...:
    fe88:5efe:192.168.0.3%2
    Default Gateway...................................:



    From 2nd machine called FRED (W98se)
    C:\ipconfig
    Windows 98IP Configuration
    0 Ethernet Adapter
    IP Address.................: 0.0.0.0
    Subnet Mask..............: 0.0.0.0
    Default Gateway........:

    1 Ethernet Adapter....: 0.0.0.0
    Subnet Mask................: 0.0.0.0
    Default Gateway..........:

    2 Ethernet Adapter
    IP Adress.......................: 192.168.0.2
    Subnet Mask.................: 255.255.255.0
    Deafault Gateway.........: 192.168.0.1


    > Go to another machine and from a command prompt type the command 'ping
    > VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ' where VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ is the address you got from the
    > other
    > machine.


    I pinged 192.168.0.2 from this machine (switched off Zone Alarm)

    >This will let you know if this machine can see the other machine on the
    > network.


    Yes it did without me having to trype it all out.......got 4 replies, 32
    bytes <1ms TTL=128, no packets lost.
    Repeated on the other machine (W98se) for 192.168.0.1 (Router?)
    Same reply
    Repeated on the W98se machine for 192.168.0.3 (XPpro?)
    Same reply.

    > Report back.


    To me that seems to say that they see each other ?
    So what do I click to print via the printer on the older machine?
    BTW the driver is on the older machine as it's out of date for XPpro.
    It's an Epson Stylus Color 440
    Many thanks
    Jim

  8. Re: Unable to work my network

    J L Williams wrote:
    > The message <40fd6abf$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>
    > from RonS contains these words:
    >
    > Thanks for coming back to help Much appreciated.
    >
    >
    >>OK

    >
    >
    >>Go to a command prompt on each machine and type the command 'ipconfig'
    >>(without
    >>quotes ... if it doesn't work try 'winipcfg'). This will tell you the
    >>IP address
    >>of the machine.

    >
    >
    > From XPpro machine called JIMS
    > C:\>ipconfig
    > (request from zone alarm on this machine to access the net....answered yes)
    >
    > Windows IP Configuration:
    > Connectio-specific DNS Suffix . :
    > IP Adress...........................................: 192.168.0.3
    > Subnet Mask.....................................: 255.255.255.0
    > IP Address.........................................: fe80: :
    > 204:5aff:fe5f:3dcd%4
    > Default Gateway...............................: 192.168.0.1
    > Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interfeace:
    > Connection specific DNS Suffix....:
    > IP Adress............................................ ..:
    > 3ffe:831f:4004:1956:07cf6:aefd:a90f
    > IP Adress............................................ ...: fe80: :
    > 5445:5245:444f%5
    > Default Gateway...................................: : :
    >
    > Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
    > Connection -Specific DNS Suffix . :
    > IP Adress............................................ ...:
    > fe88:5efe:192.168.0.3%2
    > Default Gateway...................................:
    >
    >
    >
    > From 2nd machine called FRED (W98se)
    > C:\ipconfig
    > Windows 98IP Configuration
    > 0 Ethernet Adapter
    > IP Address.................: 0.0.0.0
    > Subnet Mask..............: 0.0.0.0
    > Default Gateway........:
    >
    > 1 Ethernet Adapter....: 0.0.0.0
    > Subnet Mask................: 0.0.0.0
    > Default Gateway..........:
    >
    > 2 Ethernet Adapter
    > IP Adress.......................: 192.168.0.2
    > Subnet Mask.................: 255.255.255.0
    > Deafault Gateway.........: 192.168.0.1
    >
    >
    >
    >>Go to another machine and from a command prompt type the command 'ping
    >>VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ' where VVV.XXX.YYY.ZZZ is the address you got from the
    >>other
    >>machine.

    >
    >
    > I pinged 192.168.0.2 from this machine (switched off Zone Alarm)
    >
    >
    >>This will let you know if this machine can see the other machine on the
    >>network.

    >
    >
    > Yes it did without me having to trype it all out.......got 4 replies, 32
    > bytes <1ms TTL=128, no packets lost.
    > Repeated on the other machine (W98se) for 192.168.0.1 (Router?)
    > Same reply
    > Repeated on the W98se machine for 192.168.0.3 (XPpro?)
    > Same reply.
    >
    >
    >>Report back.

    >
    >
    > To me that seems to say that they see each other ?
    > So what do I click to print via the printer on the older machine?
    > BTW the driver is on the older machine as it's out of date for XPpro.
    > It's an Epson Stylus Color 440
    > Many thanks
    > Jim


    Sounds like Zone Alarm may be getting getting in your way, since you had to turn
    it off to get the pings through. Just for testing ... make sure it's off and
    we'll get it back again once you're happily printing.

    So now ... go to Windows explorer on JIMS and enter 192.168.0.2 in the address
    bar. You should see the the folders and printers shared by FRED.

    Report back.



  9. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <40fdb8cb$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>
    from RonS contains these words:

    > > I pinged 192.168.0.2 from this machine (switched off Zone Alarm)
    > >
    > >
    > >>This will let you know if this machine can see the other machine on the
    > >>network.

    > >
    > >
    > > Yes it did without me having to trype it all out.......got 4 replies, 32
    > > bytes <1ms TTL=128, no packets lost.
    > > Repeated on the other machine (W98se) for 192.168.0.1 (Router?)
    > > Same reply
    > > Repeated on the W98se machine for 192.168.0.3 (XPpro?)
    > > Same reply.
    > >
    > >
    > >>Report back.

    > >
    > >
    > > To me that seems to say that they see each other ?
    > > So what do I click to print via the printer on the older machine?
    > > BTW the driver is on the older machine as it's out of date for XPpro.
    > > It's an Epson Stylus Color 440
    > > Many thanks
    > > Jim


    > Sounds like Zone Alarm may be getting getting in your way, since you
    > had to turn
    > it off to get the pings through. Just for testing ... make sure it's off


    Turned it of.

    >and we'll get it back again once you're happily printing.


    > So now ... go to Windows explorer on JIMS and enter 192.168.0.2 in the
    > address
    > bar. You should see the the folders and printers shared by FRED.


    It said "This page cannot be displayed".
    Cheers
    Jim


    > Report back.


  10. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <2004072108465075767@zetnet.co.uk>
    from J L Williams contains these words:

    > > Sounds like Zone Alarm may be getting getting in your way, since you
    > > had to turn
    > > it off to get the pings through. Just for testing ... make sure it's off


    > Turned it of.


    > >and we'll get it back again once you're happily printing.


    > > So now ... go to Windows explorer on JIMS and enter 192.168.0.2 in the
    > > address
    > > bar. You should see the the folders and printers shared by FRED.


    > It said "This page cannot be displayed".


    On re-reading that after posting....there is no firewall on FRED.
    Cheers
    Jim

    > Cheers
    > Jim



    > > Report back.


  11. Re: Unable to work my network

    J L Williams wrote:
    > The message <2004072108465075767@zetnet.co.uk>
    > from J L Williams contains these words:
    >
    >
    >>>Sounds like Zone Alarm may be getting getting in your way, since you
    >>>had to turn
    >>>it off to get the pings through. Just for testing ... make sure it's off

    >
    >
    >>Turned it of.

    >
    >
    >>>and we'll get it back again once you're happily printing.

    >
    >
    >>>So now ... go to Windows explorer on JIMS and enter 192.168.0.2 in the
    >>>address
    >>>bar. You should see the the folders and printers shared by FRED.

    >
    >
    >>It said "This page cannot be displayed".

    >
    >
    > On re-reading that after posting....there is no firewall on FRED.
    > Cheers
    > Jim
    >
    >
    >>Cheers
    >>Jim

    >
    >
    >
    >>>Report back.

    Sorry.. I should have said to enter \\192.168.0.2 in Windows explorer on JIMS.
    The \\ tells it to browse for a computer, not a website.

  12. Re: Unable to work my network

    J L Williams wrote:

    > The message <2004072108465075767@zetnet.co.uk>
    > from J L Williams contains these words:
    >
    >
    >>>Sounds like Zone Alarm may be getting getting in your way, since you
    >>>had to turn
    >>>it off to get the pings through. Just for testing ... make sure it's off

    >
    >
    >>Turned it of.

    >
    >
    >>>and we'll get it back again once you're happily printing.

    >
    >
    >>>So now ... go to Windows explorer on JIMS and enter 192.168.0.2 in the
    >>>address
    >>>bar. You should see the the folders and printers shared by FRED.

    >
    >
    >>It said "This page cannot be displayed".

    >
    >
    > On re-reading that after posting....there is no firewall on FRED.
    > Cheers
    > Jim
    >
    >
    >>Cheers
    >>Jim

    >
    >
    >
    >>>Report back.

    Also try it from FRED to JIMS ... \\192.168.0.3 on FRED.

  13. Re: Unable to work my network

    RonS wrote:

    >
    > Also try it from FRED to JIMS ... \\192.168.0.3 on FRED.


    Also try \\FRED from JIMS and \\JIMS from FRED.

  14. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <40feb7cf$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net>
    from RonS contains these words:

    > >
    > >>>Report back.

    > Also try it from FRED to JIMS ... \\192.168.0.3 on FRED.


    It says that "This page cannot be displayed"
    Jim

  15. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <40feb620$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>
    from RonS contains these words:

    > Sorry.. I should have said to enter \\192.168.0.2 in Windows explorer
    > on JIMS.
    > The \\ tells it to browse for a computer, not a website.


    It says that windows cannot find the 192.188.0.2
    Check the spelling and try again.
    Jim

  16. Re: Unable to work my network

    The message <2004072123250075767@zetnet.co.uk>
    from J L Williams contains these words:

    > The message <40feb620$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>
    > from RonS contains these words:


    > > Sorry.. I should have said to enter \\192.168.0.2 in Windows explorer
    > > on JIMS.
    > > The \\ tells it to browse for a computer, not a website.


    > It says that windows cannot find the 192.188.0.2
    > Check the spelling and try again.
    > Jim


    Ooops......that should have been "192.168.0.2"

  17. Re: Unable to work my network

    Thanks to all that responded to my pleas, it is now working.

    Why? How? What? I don't really know.
    This morning after booting I thought I'd have another go and double
    check all the steps that everyone had said check/do. It was all
    correct.....of course. I'd done this before several times.

    But this morning when I went to print summat on Fred it found the
    printer! Surprise surprise!
    But it said the driver was not the correct one.
    Well I know it is but I'm operating XPpro and Fred's is W98se. Well I
    downloaded the 'selected' driver via Jims for Fred and the blinking
    thing worked first time!

    Marvelous everyone. Many thanks.
    Jim (now printing like a good'un

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