On 2008-01-10, Shibi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have an immediate position open for FreebSd/OpenBSD/NetBsd
> administrator

[ ... ]

> Please send me your RESUME in WORD file only if your skills match with
> the above requirement.

You want BSD and Solaris admin experience (which I have), but
you want the resume done in Microsoft Word?

I'm not planning to apply, but FWIW, while I have several
Solaris and OpenBSD machines running here (at home), I have only one
token Windows box (fully isolated behind the firewall) *without* Word.

And I've *never* used Word -- and don't plan to change that
status.

So -- how many potential applicants are you shutting out by your
requirement for the resume in Word?

What are the chances that you would accept something written in
OpenOffice (in Solaris) and saved as a Word format file? (Not that I've
bothered to learn to create documents in OpenOffice's word processor
anyway. If I were to compose a resume, I would write it in Troff
format, and print it to PDF format.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" writes:

> On 2008-01-10, Shibi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have an immediate position open for FreebSd/OpenBSD/NetBsd
> > administrator
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > Please send me your RESUME in WORD file only if your skills match with
> > the above requirement.
>
> You want BSD and Solaris admin experience (which I have), but
> you want the resume done in Microsoft Word?

I suspect they'll get resumes from the job candidates they deserve.

// marc

Shibi wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have an immediate position open for FreebSd/OpenBSD/NetBsd
> administrator
> Location:San Jose,CA
> Length of engagement:6+Months
>
> Desired skills:
>
> *Should have experience in System Administration .
> *Solaris Expreience prefered.
>
>
> *************************************
> Thanks and Regards
> Shibi
> QSolv Inc.
> 226 Airport Pkwy, Suite #390
> San Jose, CA 95110.
>
> Tel 1: 408 903 4572 Ext:-215
> Tel 2: 408 834 4780
> Fax: 408 904 4505
> Email:shibi@qsolv-inc.com
>
> Please send me your RESUME in WORD file only if your skills match with
> the above requirement.
well,
I guess that leaves me out (for more than one reason).
1. I don't run windows
2. I run bsd here (openbsd firewalls, freebsd ) in vmware
3. I administer dhcp, dns, sshd, http, mysql and others on a linux host
(hosting vmware)
4. I happen to be blind.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind a trip back to my old home town, but no way in hell
am I going to dig up someones old windows box just to input my resume in
word. why don't you use a real document format like PDF or even rtf?


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In article <87wsqf2rgt.fsf@thingy.datadok.no>,
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
>We do have openoffice as a packace, so producing word .doc files is
>possible on OpenBSD these days. At the cost of of installing what
>probably is the largest package in the entire collection, granted.

Nope, that honor still goes to TeX.
9.3M texlive_base-2007p3.tgz
253M texlive_texmf-docs-2007p0.tgz
119M texlive_texmf-full-2007p1.tgz
111M texlive_texmf-minimal-2007p1.tgz

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On 10 Jan 2008 23:10:50 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
[snip!]
>
> What are the chances that you would accept something written in
> OpenOffice (in Solaris) and saved as a Word format file?

Be serious. Recruiters are human buzzword filters that can do minimal
cut'n'paste (``industry standards based'') document mangling with
``WORD''. Your questions are already far too technical.


> (Not that I've bothered to learn to create documents in OpenOffice's
> word processor anyway. If I were to compose a resume, I would write it
> in Troff format, and print it to PDF format.

Troff (well, groff) here, plain text, ps and pdf are available. Works a
treat for non-recruiters. Recruiters seem to be ethically comparable to
spammers, as the same rules seem to apply.

Seeing the nitwit repeat itself despite being told in detail what it's
doing wrong (out of no multi-posting, use a job announcement group or
mailinglist instead of a discussion group, find a group that's local,
and don't insult your audience; it only seems to have picked up on the
first--I posted all that in cubFm though) to me confirms incompetence
and makes me question whether it's human. Meaning that even if it'd
offer really good terms (as if) I'd still not want to deal with it. May
its employer learn quickly and find a better way to recruit people.


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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:14:10 -0700 in <1843045.ZK9rX6ZeMr@rawgames.org> Technomage Hawke wrote:
>
> Frankly, I wouldn't mind a trip back to my old home town, but no way in hell
> am I going to dig up someones old windows box just to input my resume in
> word. why don't you use a real document format like PDF or even rtf?

Because the recruiter doesn't have brains enough to use any other word
processor and wishes to take your resume, remove your contact information,
put the recruiting agency's information into the resume, and sometimes add
skills you don't even have to the resume.

On the bright side folks like this don't have any problems at all with
text or rich text or HTML files with .doc extensions.
MS Windows brings up MS Word when they click on the extension and they don't
have to go through the misery of copying and pasting from notepad.

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-- G. K. Chesterton.

Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:

> Technomage Hawke writes:
>
>> Frankly, I wouldn't mind a trip back to my old home town, but no way in
>> hell am I going to dig up someones old windows box just to input my
>> resume in word.
>
> We do have openoffice as a packace, so producing word .doc files is
> possible on OpenBSD these days. At the cost of of installing what
> probably is the largest package in the entire collection, granted.
>


hehehe yeah. something like 187 MB of data.
still, I don't really use X much in BSD. its a bit of a pain to setup and
get going with a speech synth package. BSD is much preferred for use as a
firewall and some other networking intrinsic tasks. at least in Linux, OO
is pretty use friendly with my "TTS" system.

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