In article <486cbdcd$0$27440$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net>, Uli Link
writes:
> Hello,
>
> Urgent help request:
> I have grabbed a 450MHz 7044P-170 from ebay for speeding up the builds.
> But unfortunatly it has a GXT4500P graphics adaptor. I need the AIX
> 4.3.3 baselevel filesets for the GXT4500P for integration into my LPP
> source and SPOT on my NIM server.

Are you sure they exist ?
I've looked at 4.3.3 CDs (base as well as device drivers) of 200x,
they only support GXT4000/6000.

Michael Kraemer schrieb:

>> Urgent help request:
>> I have grabbed a 450MHz 7044P-170 from ebay for speeding up the builds.
>> But unfortunatly it has a GXT4500P graphics adaptor. I need the AIX
>> 4.3.3 baselevel filesets for the GXT4500P for integration into my LPP
>> source and SPOT on my NIM server.
>
> Are you sure they exist ?
> I've looked at 4.3.3 CDs (base as well as device drivers) of 200x,
> they only support GXT4000/6000.

They are supported from ML9 or later. I have found the updates in my NIM
lpp source, so if there are updates, there also should be the baselevel
fileset. But my AIX 4.3.3 edia set is ML2 with an update CD for ML3.
The seller's description was GXT4000P, that was what I was looking for ;-)

THX for searching
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Uli Link

On Jul 3, 2:58 pm, Uli Link
wrote:
....

> They are supported from ML9 or later. I have found the updates in my NIM

IBM stated for their AIX 4.3.3 ML 11 package:
.....
Package name: AIX 4.3.3 Maintenance Level 11
Release date: February 2003
....
This package is a cumulative update package that can be installed on
previous AIX 4.3.3 levels. It contains code updates and support for
additional hardware and software features.

So maybe this ?enhanced? ML11 has the base fileset.

Package can be found at:
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webap...11package.html

hth
Hajo

BTW: In case you need a AIX 6.1 test machine just let me know.

In article <486ccd0a$0$7534$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net>, Uli Link
writes:
>
> They are supported from ML9 or later. I have found the updates in my NIM
> lpp source, so if there are updates, there also should be the baselevel
> fileset. But my AIX 4.3.3 edia set is ML2 with an update CD for ML3.
> The seller's description was GXT4000P, that was what I was looking for ;-)
>

I spotted it now on a more recent CD set, of 2002:

devices.pci.14101c02.4.3.3.0.I

I could send it via PM (it's only 400kB).
If you need OpenGL and PHIGS stuff, that's a bit more (2x30MB or so).

Michael Kraemer schrieb:

> I spotted it now on a more recent CD set, of 2002:
>
> devices.pci.14101c02.4.3.3.0.I

That's it!

>
> I could send it via PM (it's only 400kB).

This would be fine. If you reply to the newsgroup posting, the PM will
pass the spam filter. Without matching news posting id, it will be
marked spam.

> If you need OpenGL and PHIGS stuff, that's a bit more (2x30MB or so).

I will set up an SFTP upload for you soon. On my old machines OpenGL
isn't installed, but with 2GB RAM this doesn't matter.


Many thanks!

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Uli Link

Hajo Ehlers schrieb:

> So maybe this ?enhanced? ML11 has the base fileset.

Has not. Have searched ftp.boulder.ibm.com first.

> BTW: In case you need a AIX 6.1 test machine just let me know.

Thanks Hajo, but I have no plans for natively targeting AIX 6.1.
Seamonkey and Firefox both work on AIX 6.1 if the X11R6 compat libs are
appended to the shared lib search path. The downward binary
compatibility of AIX is reliable.

If you could do a quick test with the Firefox 2.0.0.16 and/or Seamonkey
1.1.11 release candidates this would be fine. Will setup a closed
usergroup pre-release download area.

My wife kills me, if there is one more black and noisy box and I cannot
give away the old. I really love those old RS/6000. Not comparable with
the recent plastic boxes...

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Uli Link

On Jul 3, 4:05 pm, Uli Link
wrote:
> Hajo Ehlers schrieb:
>
> > So maybe this ?enhanced? ML11 has the base fileset.
>
> Has not. Have searched ftp.boulder.ibm.com first.
>
> > BTW: In case you need a AIX 6.1 test machine just let me know.
>
> Thanks Hajo, but I have no plans for natively targeting AIX 6.1.
What i would like to test is - if it is possible to restore a mksysb
from a AIX 4.3.3 machine onto a AIX 6.1 subdir and check if in a
chroot environment AIX 4.3.3 software can be build.
If yes the build/test cycle could speed up.

> My wife kills me, if there is one more black and noisy box and I cannot
> give away the old. I really love those old RS/6000. Not comparable with
> the recent plastic boxes...

The AIX 6.1 box is accessible over the internet. So no local noise. No
need to give away the old stuff.

cheers
Hajo

Hajo Ehlers schrieb:

>>> BTW: In case you need a AIX 6.1 test machine just let me know.
>> Thanks Hajo, but I have no plans for natively targeting AIX 6.1.
> What i would like to test is - if it is possible to restore a mksysb
> from a AIX 4.3.3 machine onto a AIX 6.1 subdir and check if in a
> chroot environment AIX 4.3.3 software can be build.
> If yes the build/test cycle could speed up.

I have a mksysb file on my NIM server from my 43P-150 with all needed
software for building. One 9GB or 2 4,5GB hdisks are convenient.

> The AIX 6.1 box is accessible over the internet. So no local noise. No
> need to give away the old stuff.

Yep... this sounds very interesting :-)
If it is not possible with AIX 4.3.3 it could be a good idea to setup a
AIX 5.2 build environment.

I run the builds detached with "nohup". For broadest compatibility I use
VACPP 5.0.2.9 but VACPP 6 works fine too. I have tried with the try&buy
test version.

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Uli Link

On Jul 3, 7:37 pm, Uli Link
wrote:
....
> If it is not possible with AIX 4.3.3 it could be a good idea to setup a
> AIX 5.2 build environment.

I can also provide AIX 5.3 native access. I love micro partitions and
wpars.

Just get from http://www.metamodul.com/8.html my email address and
drop me a mail

cu
Hajo

Uli Link schrieb:
> Hajo Ehlers schrieb:
>
>> So maybe this ?enhanced? ML11 has the base fileset.
>
>
> Has not. Have searched ftp.boulder.ibm.com first.

If I understand the logic of ML correctly,
they never have base filesets. For new devices to be supported
one needs either a more recent version of the base OS media
or one of those device driver CDs.
I.e. AIX 4.3.3 + ML11 is not the same as 4.3.3.11.

> Thanks Hajo, but I have no plans for natively targeting AIX 6.1.
> Seamonkey and Firefox both work on AIX 6.1 if the X11R6 compat libs are
> appended to the shared lib search path. The downward binary
> compatibility of AIX is reliable.

and remarkable.
A couple of days ago I ran an executable built 1991 or so
under AIX 3 for Power1 on a Power6 box under AIX 6.1.


> My wife kills me, if there is one more black and noisy box

Well, I moved the noisy stuff into the basement and keep
the workstations in a dedicated room.
Still I here complains every now and then:
"Why do you need so many PCs ?"
PCs ! Aargh !

Uli Link wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> Firefox 2.0.0.15 is released and my builds for AIX 4.3.3 are available.
>
>
> Seamonkey 1.1.10
>
>
> Firefox 2.0.0.16/Seamonkey 1.1.11 is coming very soon. The first release
> candidate is under testing at the moment. The release date is expect for
> about mid July.
>

What about a version for AIX 5.3 (running on my 44p-170)? Have 1.5.0.12
installed now.

Thanks.

Huub schrieb:

>
> What about a version for AIX 5.3 (running on my 44p-170)? Have 1.5.0.12
> installed now.
>

First: Firefox for AIX 4.3.3 works perfectly on AIX 5.3 too.
I have reports of successful usage even on AIX 6.1 with only a little
tweak in the wrapper shell script.

Second:
During my efforts for porting Firefox 3 to the AIX platform I have tried
a more recent build environment, and therefor I will release Firefox
2.0.0.16/Seamonkey 1.1.11 in GTK2/cairo builds with SVG support for AIX
5.1 and higher only in addition to the 4.3.3 builds.
Tested on AIX 5.1ML9 and AIX 5.2TL10 and it will run on AIX 5.3 too.
If you have the IBM build of Firefox up and running you'll have all
predependencies met.

If you compare the GTK1/4.3.3 build with the same version GTK2/AIX 5.1
you'll find the GUI somewhat fancier. With 512MB RAM minimum the
performance is on par, the first startup is much faster with GTK1
because there are only a fraction of shared libs to be loaded before the
browser's window appears. If you don't need the still very buggy SVG
support there is no real advantage.

The main difference to the outdated IBM build: my Firefox/Seamonkey
builds are 32bit, as I don't see an advantage of 64bit and there are
still a lot of 32bit-only machines running at somebody's home.

If you want Firefox built on AIX 5.3 you can compile it from source.
I will release the ".mozconfig" plus the minimal source patch with the
binaries. The main work is fixing the buggy GTK2 pkgconfig files from
the dev rpm :-(


--
Uli

> First: Firefox for AIX 4.3.3 works perfectly on AIX 5.3 too.
> I have reports of successful usage even on AIX 6.1 with only a little
> tweak in the wrapper shell script.

I have tried to run 2.0.0.15, but with all dependances met (be it a bit
later versions..), it fails on libgtk.so.0.

>
> Second:
> During my efforts for porting Firefox 3 to the AIX platform I have tried
> a more recent build environment, and therefor I will release Firefox
> 2.0.0.16/Seamonkey 1.1.11 in GTK2/cairo builds with SVG support for AIX
> 5.1 and higher only in addition to the 4.3.3 builds.
> Tested on AIX 5.1ML9 and AIX 5.2TL10 and it will run on AIX 5.3 too.
> If you have the IBM build of Firefox up and running you'll have all
> predependencies met.

OK.

Huub schrieb:
>> First: Firefox for AIX 4.3.3 works perfectly on AIX 5.3 too.
>> I have reports of successful usage even on AIX 6.1 with only a little
>> tweak in the wrapper shell script.
>
> I have tried to run 2.0.0.15, but with all dependances met (be it a bit
> later versions..), it fails on libgtk.so.0.

You have to install glib-1.2.10 and gtk-1.2.10 rpms as described on my
webpage


You have installed glib2 and gtk2 which is NOT compatible. My GTK2
builds aren't released yet. They will be available for download shortly
after mozilla.org has released Firefox 2.0.0.16
Estimated for around the July 15th.

--
Uli

> You have to install glib-1.2.10 and gtk-1.2.10 rpms as described on my
> webpage
>
>
> You have installed glib2 and gtk2 which is NOT compatible. My GTK2
> builds aren't released yet. They will be available for download shortly
> after mozilla.org has released Firefox 2.0.0.16
> Estimated for around the July 15th.
>

Can I install the packages form your side along with the packages I
already have installed or do I have to remove them?

Huub schrieb:
>
>> You have to install glib-1.2.10 and gtk-1.2.10 rpms as described on my
>> webpage
>>
>>
>> You have installed glib2 and gtk2 which is NOT compatible. My GTK2
>> builds aren't released yet. They will be available for download
>> shortly after mozilla.org has released Firefox 2.0.0.16
>> Estimated for around the July 15th.
>>
>
> Can I install the packages form your side along with the packages I
> already have installed or do I have to remove them?

I don't have rpm packages on my website. I have placed links to the ftp
server at IBM.
I would recommend that you install glib-1.2.10 and gtk-1.2.10 from your
AIX toolbox CD or download the package gtk-1.2.10-4 for AIX 5.1 from


This one is slightly newer than the one I have linked for AIX 4.3.3

The glib-1.2.10 package linked is the most recent and it works on AIX
5.3 too.

Those libs will coexist with glib2/gtk2 without problems.

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Uli