On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:06:21 UTC, Peter Brown
wrote:

> Hi Eye
>
> Eye Pikm wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:54:40 UTC, "Herbert Rosenau"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:57:15 UTC, Mike Luther
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does anyone here recall about the number of MB needed for the boot drive to
> >>> convert from Warp 4 to MCP1? In this particular case it looks like I've got
> >>> about 350MB for sure, could work out more I'm pretty sure by shuffling things
> >>> out of the way, but just wanted a remember guess or so.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >> WARP up to 4.50 was happy with 350 MB system drive
> >> MCP and eCS up to 1.1 needs 500 MB minimum. eCS 1.2x loves to see 1
> >> GB. eCS 2.0 loves 1.5 - 2.0GB for a full install.
> >>
> > It appears that eCS is bloating up like doze. I suppose its acting/looking
> > more like doze also, though I haven't seen anything past 1.1 (didn't like
> > the interface and it seemed then like it was trying to be more doze-like).
> > Guess I'll be with Warp4 until it can't run anymore.
> >
>
>
>
> eCS is basically OS/2 Warp4 MCP plus a few extra bits so has options not
> available during a Warp4 install. The more options you pick the more
> space you need. Of course, you do not have to install the options to the
> boot drive - or at all.
>
> So, the "bloat" is whatever options *you* choose to install.
>
>
> Regarding the Interface I guess you must be talking about the Default
> eCS interface, eWorkplace, which is, basically, xWorkplace.
>
> I'm not that keen on xWorkplace but other people seem to like it...
>
> You may be interested to know that you can decide to use a Warp4 or
> eCS1.0 interface (slightly tarted up Warp4) instead of the Default.
>
> I tend to prefer the eCs1.0 interface myself :-)
>
>
> Hope that clears up some possible misconceptions.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
I have no misconceptions about eCS itself. the options one chooses to
install default to the boot drive. that equals doze mentality. yes, I know
one change where these can be installed, its just the doze mentality I'm
opposed to. Been a long time since looking at eCS, but I seem to remember
it putting a folder on the desktop aka doze 'my documents'. correct me if
I'm wrong. Couple of other things I didn't like, but can't remember what.

As for XWorkplace, I've been using it since ver 1.0.2 and I like most
features it brings. My biggest dislike is the doze-like 400 mouse clicks
(extreme exaggeration) to shut down the friggin' machine. 'Are you sure you
want to do this or that'. "No, I clicked on shut down cause I wanted the
machine to sprout wings and fly away."
I did fix that with an icon on the tray that goes directly to shutdown.cmd.

Sorry to sound like I'm in a tizzy. I've been manually transfering most of
an XP system from one HD to a new machine for my landlady (80 yrs. old). No
real organization, files everywhere (kinda like the OS files), and of
course no back ups. can't boot the old HD, fried motherboard. the heatsink
clamp sprung and landed on the mb. Old HD is eide, new machine is all sata.
what a mess. the first thing I had to do, was to delete the preinstalled
vista and upgrade to xp. Almost finished and I'm not going to go through
this again, so I'm setting her up with automatic registry back up on every
boot and whole drive back up on every shutdown.