Mr. Emmanuel Roche, France schrieb:
> Hello, Udo!
>
>> In the 21th century you are running Micro**** 98, and then the worst
>> version (SE) ever, where even the vendor self regretted that it was
>> released? How could that happen?? A computer system able to run this
>> unbelievable pile of crap easily could run BSD UNIX or a Linux
>> distribution! rexec format c: roche ;-)
>
> How do you explain that all the cybercafes in my area use Windows? This is

I don't know, I have been to very few Internet cafes my self and those
either had all Apple equipment, not running Windows, or both.

> the comp.os.cpm Newsgroup. I arrived here after all the various small
> magazines (like "The Computer Journal") died one after another. As far as I
> know, this is the last place on Earth where CP/M stuff is discussed.

There is not much CP/M discussion here, you'll find much more stuff on
web sites that offer informations, manuals and software for the old
machines.

> Regarding Win 98SE, for me it is just a way to access the Internet. Find me
> the equivalent under CP/M (or even DR-DOS (by the way, why I am the only one
> to talk about DR-DOS? Isn't it a Digital Research OS? And where can one find
> DR-SBK and DR-WebSpyder?)), and I will drop without any problem Win 98SE.

If you want to use CP/M to access the Internet then you need to
implement appropriate software for this, asking me to find such software
for you is not an option.
Yes you are the only one to talk about DR-DOS. I have installed it on a
virtual machine, but there is not much to talk about, it's just for
playing some old games. Trivial technology long gone, what to talk about?

> If I was using Linux, I would be the only one in the area. I am already the
> only one still using CP/M. By using Win 98SE, I can talk with the cybercafe
> managers, and can use any "IBM Clown" available right now. Like it or not,
> Windows is the universal OS, not Unix. Ten years ago, there was still a
> computer shop selling Macs. It is gone. Now, all that remains are "IBM
> Clowns" running Windows.

Excuse me, but at work I use real big Sun, IBM, HP servers all running
UNIX, even smaller x86-64 bit systems are running UNIX. This huge
database machines can't be replaced with half broken Windows Software on
tiny hardware. That 'universal' Windows OS can't even be used on a small
client system for serious work. This stuff might be good for usage at
home as entertainment, but that's far from an universal OS. Have a look
at Linux, runs on small cell phones up to the biggest IBM mainframe.
Looks like it is an universal OS usable for everything.

> By the way, I seem to remember that someone wrote:
>
>> The real fun is building it and then using it...
>
> so, where is a simple email program for CP/M?

That saying means that I enjoy building stuff for my self to use it.
Reading my email on a CP/M system isn't in that category. I don't mind
if others want to use things I have build too, fine with me. If you want
me to build your stuff then you are supposed to pay me for that.

> As I have already explained over and over, the Internet is based on the
> client/server idea, so I thought of using CP/NET Version 1.2 (since it is
> compatible with 16-bit DR Net) as a first step, so that a CP/M computer
> could run a Web browser running on a Linux box.

CP/NET is a very simple point to point protocol for remote procedure
calls to share some resources like disks and printers. With that you
won't go anywhere far. Internet uses TCP/IP protocol, something very
different. Instead of trying to explaining the Internet to me get your
self busy understanding the protocols. Then you can write software using it.

> (I have been unable to connect to your telnet MP/M-II server ever since my
> first try.)

Yep, because the 2 lines where used permanently. Looks like I have to
implement a timeout that kicks people out, still the same as with the
BBS's in the 80th. People connect to systems and then go away for hours
without using them. Ah well, is just a test machine to try out bits and
stuff, but should be improved if anyone wants to run an ancient BBS over
the Internet.

> Yours Sincerely,
> Mr. Emmanuel Roche, France

Udo Munk
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The real fun is building it and then using it...