 Re: Problem with network(card)?
"Lord Turkey Cough" wrote in message
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>> On Jun 30, 11:49 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" wrote:
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>>> > Hi, I am not to sure where to start but here goes.
>>>
>>> > I while back I bought a realtek network card for and old computer to
>>> > connect it to my new computer which runs XP, the new computer already
>>> > had
>>> > a network card but I had to buy and fit one for the old one which runs
>>> > windows98, it was a bit of a struggle installing it, it was a ,
>>> > I had problems getting the right driver but I got there in the end
>>> > (somehow) and eventually managed to conect my two computers so I could
>>> > share files etc.
>>>
>>> > Anyway I stopped using that computer but I tried to use it again
>>> > recently.
>>> > I had a few problems, one of the drives (slave) was not working and I
>>> > booted up with just the master (I thought that had failed at that
>>> > point
>>> > too).
>>> > Anyway, I think it said something that it could not find drivers for
>>> > the
>>> > network card or something like that, but I kind of ignored it and
>>> > booted
>>> > up and tried to connect the two computers as before via a 'cross-over'
>>> > cable.
>>> > It did not seem to work as before, I could not see the old computer
>>> > from
>>> > my new computer (view network or whatever) however it recogises a
>>> > connection and if I unplug the cable from the the old computer or
>>> > switch
>>> > it off it reports a network connection as missing or something like
>>> > that
>>> > "local area conection" "A network cable is unplugged" is the exact
>>> > message
>>> > actually.
>>> > I plug it back in and it says "local area connection speed 100 MPS
>>> > status connected."
>>> > It says all that on the new computer, the XP but it says nothing on
>>> > the
>>> > old one, the win98 one which has the realtec card i bought in.
>>>
>>> > It does not seem to know much about the card at all in fact, I seem to
>>> > remember it used to be listed in System - Device Manager, but it does
>>> > not
>>> > seem to be there anymore.
>>>
>>> > I seem to remember it being listed there with yellow mark by it when
>>> > it
>>> > had the wrong drivers, maybe in 'network adaptors' I can't remember
>>> > too
>>> > well. Eventually I sorted out the drivers and it worked.
>>>
>>> > I think possibly what might have happened is that I put the drivers on
>>> > the slave drive which now longer there as it is broken,
>>>
>>> > If I click on - control panel - network, it says the following
>>> > componets
>>> > are installed, one of them is Realtek RTL8129, it comes up twice I
>>> > think.
>>> > Note it is not quite RTL8139D.
>>>
>>> > Anyway can anyone give me any advice?
>>>
>>> > Is my card working?
>>>
>>> > Should it be listed in the device manager?
>>>
>>> > If so why is it not there?
>>>
>>> > Did I maybe tell it to ignore the card at some point?
>>>
>>> > I tried taking out the card and putting it back in, rebooting with no
>>> > card
>>> > in between, but it never said new hardware detected.
>>>
>>> > Incidently when I first booted up (after not using the computer for
>>> > along
>>> > time) I think it did say new hardware detect and maybe that it could
>>> > not
>>> > find the drivers, I am not sure, I ignored that message at that point,
>>> > but
>>> > I thouogh it odd.
>>> > Maybe could not find the drivers because a driver was missing but I
>>> > though
>>> > it could have copied them into the system folder anyway.
>>>
>>> > Help!!!-
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>> you could bypass all of this thought by just reinstalling the drivers.
>>
>> its seems your problem is how to do this, since your network card is
>> not listed in device manager.
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>> I don't have a windows 98 system with a network card here to try this
>> with.. Though I have done it before without running into any problems.
>>
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>> I would have expected that if the network card is in there, then one
>> would either get it in device manager (with or without a yellow
>> exclamation mark), or a window coming up saying windows 98 found new
>> hardware (and you could then point to where the drivers are located).
>> (or maybe yellow exclamation mark and that window). I am suprised
>> you get neither.. You really need one of those screens in order to
>> point windows to the driver.
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> It does not show up at all.
> I am pretty sure the card is 'dead'
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>> (you could right click an inf and choose install, but that's a real
>> long shot, and isn't always as effective)
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>> This site goes through installing a network card in windows 98
>> http://www.mcgill.ca/ncs/products/so...king/pc/steps/
>>
>> Here, they got the "add new hardware" detection window up by doing to
>>
>> ctrl panel....Add new hardware
>>
>> Does that detect your network card (asking you for a driver)? If so,
>> then great.
>>
>> It may be that the popup saying disconnected/connected, is a sign that
>> it is somewhat recognised... So is odd that it is not in device
>> manager.
>>
>> That link
>> http://www.mcgill.ca/ncs/products/so...king/pc/steps/
>> mentions something else though..
>>
>> And I can see another route to "adding your network adaptor" ,
>> including installing the driver..
>>
>> ctrl panel....network
>>
>> now , according to them, it should list
>> TCP/IP, Client for Microsoft Networks, the Ethernet adapter card and
>> NetBEUI.
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>> If any of those are not listed. e.g. no ethernet adaptor listed.
>>
>> Click Add,
>> and then it asks you to choose Client,Adaptor,Protocol,Service
>>
>> They go through adding the Netbeui service. You might want to do that
>> if it isn't installed.
>>
>> But if your ethernet card/adaptor is not installed. Then choose
>> Adaptor. And then maybe you will be able to point it to drivers for
>> your card.
>>
>> It is a bit of a shot in the dark.. But it's something to try.
>>
>> And, since I just noticed,you say that you did ctrl panel...network
>> and it listed your card twice and not the exact model number.
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> No the card does not come up twice in the device manager.
> That thing comes up twice else where under a protocol
> like tcp/ip or something. I think it refers to software rather
> than hardware.
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>> I suggest that may be why you get the connect/disconnect thing
>> working, but not much else.. And things are strange.
>>
>> Try removing the network adaptor. Both entries.
>> So detection comes up again. And point it to the correct drivers.
>> Download the right drivers.
>> Or, instead of removing them, go to their properties if possible, and
>> point to the right drivers.
>>
>> You don't want them coming up for the wrong model if in your situation
>> of it not working. The drivers for the wrong model, which is what you
>> have, are a suspect.
>> It may be that windows autodetected it like that - wrongly. So remove
>> them, and instead of letting windows choose the driver for you. You
>> tell windows what driver to install.
>>
>> Download the right driver.
>>
>> Google the model number of your network card. And/Or go to the network
>> card manufacturer website (realtek). And get the drivers for that
>> particular model of network card.
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> I also tried the card in my new machine and it was not list there
> either, however there was a Realtek card listed but that is the one
> which is onboard with the machine. It's same type RTL8139D
> but it is listed even if I take the card out again as I would expect.
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> So I am 99% sure it is dead. Although I am puzzeled as to
> what killed it. Possibly connecting it to the other machine
> via a none cross-over cable, but then the ehernet card iso that n the
> other machine, this one is working fine, I am using ot now infact
> to connect to my modem.
>
> Anyway thanks for those links they will come in useful because
> I am going to but another card (two infact) they are only £6 a piece,
> so that should help me install them. I did manager to do it myself before
> but it was a struggle so a guide will help.
> I had all sorts of trouble before, the windows firewall was blocking
> me and it was not listing networked places, but I did get it working
> eventually. Then I stopped using that machine for about a year and I
> was surprised that networking was not working when I set it up
> again recently.
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